Posts by heathen

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What should I say to the Mormons?

by bluecanary in

yesterday as i was leaving the apartment, there were two women in skirts, holding bibles at the door across from me.

i almost panicked!

i definitely want to talk the jws if they ever come to my door (no one knows me in this area) but i'm not ready yet!.

heathen

This religion I can see really appeals to polygamists, I think that cartoon was very freaky myself . It seems like there are some things that come from the bible , I wouldn't have a problem saying that jesus and satan are brothers since jesus is believed to have been arch angel Michael who remained loyal to God where as satan rebelled . If you join you may wind up with several wives ......he he

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Governing Body's excuse - "the apostles made mistakes too"

by xelder in

we have all heard how the gb can make mistakes and it's ok because jesus apostles had wrong expectations too.

for instance.

peter had faults, james and john too - also, "lord, are you restoring the kingdom to isreal at this time" - etc.

heathen

We have this forum to throw around some thoughts on , judas was destined to do what he did, at least it isn't us .LOL I know it's hard to adhere to religion as I have tried in the past , christianity is a way of life not just a belief or a religion , I do believe that all religion has fallen short of divine standards and all people as well , even the apostle Peter proved himself a hypocrite , the bible itself has been bastardized by world rulers and charlatans . All you can do is strive to be the best you can .

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Governing Body's excuse - "the apostles made mistakes too"

by xelder in

we have all heard how the gb can make mistakes and it's ok because jesus apostles had wrong expectations too.

for instance.

peter had faults, james and john too - also, "lord, are you restoring the kingdom to isreal at this time" - etc.

heathen

Some interesting points being made here but it really is the FDS dogma that they cling to for authority .The apostles did make mistakes and the bible does contradict itself . Paul was clearly the most adamant about being free from the mosaic law claiming it was obsolete and passing away , cursed is the one hung upon a stake ,( of course jesus being the emodiment of the law) and the one believed to have given it to moses as the word of God. The 10 commandments jesus summed up as to do unto others as you would have others do unto you . Jesus initiated a new covenant at the last supper , to cling to the past was not part of the plan as when he said you cannot put new wine in old wine skins .

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How much will Watchtower publish online?

by jonathanconway in

i've noticed that they have a small selection of articles online.. however the majority of their stuff is only accessible through either the watchtower cdrom or dead trees.. has anyone yet asked them about putting their entire library online?.

if their aim is to "spead the good news", then what possible reason could there be for not making the content publicly accessible?.

since they already have it in electronic form (i believe the content is already in html format on the cd), the cost of doing this would be minimal, and it would probably make their website rank better in google.. of course, the flip-side is that this would allow others to link to their content and discuss it openly and, anonymously, which might expose them to much more criticism than they've ever experienced before.. but i'm wondering what their excuse would be if someone asked them "why not"?.

heathen

It would save them alot of money , they are always looking for ways to cut spending such as the move to not use the post office and mail the publications but instead they use a tractor trailer to move their publications throughout the country . The problem is that in third world countries people would not have web access so works better to print up material and send it where it needs to go . Of course the control issue is always there but it is their material and they have the right to do what they want with copy writ .

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Bad press is putting the Watchtower org. in a defensive mode

by koolaid-man in

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friends

the squeaky clean image of the jehovah's witnesses as of late is becoming tarnished.

the news media is reporting many stories connecting the jehovah's witnesses to horrific, terrible crimes, as well as other odd behavior in their religion.

the recent murder and cannibalism of a young baby in texas as reported by the media suggested that the mother, who was the alleged murderer, was a jehovah's witness.the breaking story of phillip and nancy garrido in antioch california and the evil act of kidnapping a young girl and keeping her a prisoner in their back yard as well as his raping and having two children by her is extreme evil.

heathen

I think the point that was trying to be made is that the WTBTS does excomunicate people that are proven to engage in immoral behaviour where as say these people were in the catholic ,the church would not take action at all just like in the case of adolph hitler or pedophile preists that they just moved them to a new location . Of course I've never been in the JW religion like many on the board so don't have personal experiences of what politics are involved with remaining in good standing .

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Blood Fractions - following quote from the Reasoning Book

by insearchoftruth in

when i asked the elder about blood fractions he said that they are allowed because the bible does not speak directly to fractions....well if the bible does not speak directly to fractions, upon what did they base the below statement in the reasoning from the scriptures book....... .

animal flesh may be eaten, but not the blood.

gen. 9:3,4: "every moving animal that is alive may serve.

heathen

The WTBTS will never give up it's position on blood since they are a legalistic corporation that would no doubt look into the legal situation first before it concerns itself with the lives of it's members . Remember the end is so very nye you will only be dead for a short while .They would leave themselves open to law suits for coecing it's members into subjection to it's rules . It's obvious to me that the mosaic rules are not aplicable since the apostle Paul always refuted the unnecessary compliance to the law in reguards to circumsizm . All that remains of the law is peace , love and unity , the new laws in place are based on Love especially.

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The Faithful Steward and it's Governing Body

by Mickey mouse in

this will be studied in two weeks time but it's such a special .

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heathen

donuthole- If you read the public version of the WT and awake they recently had an article on how the anointed are chosen by God . When you get baptized at some point after God give you holy spirit which would make it obvious beyond a doubt that you are in the flock but only to you today , back in the first century they had gifts from the spirit such as speaking in toungues , prophesy , healing and such but today they don't claim any such power , even tho the scripture does state ," in the final part of the days men servants would prophesy and have visions and female slaves would prophesy and old men would dream dreams," (I'm guessing it's to do with dream interpretation). Now I do know an "anointed" that claims to experience nothing out of the ordinary .

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The Faithful Steward and it's Governing Body

by Mickey mouse in

this will be studied in two weeks time but it's such a special .

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heathen

Just looks like another of those articles where they want to claim infalibility yet won't come out and say it . Since God apointed them we have to accept their inconsistancy as the perfect will of God . Of course they won't say that all "anointed" are equal since women are yet a sub group of the anointed and not allowed to lead the organization nor preach or hold any authority in the congregation . I don't like the part where they make it sound as if the "anointed" were always good christians , the apostle Paul was clear that they were just as immoral as everybody else prior to their conversion and many did leave to start their own sects . Some returned after commiting gross sinful acts .

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jesse jackson,cnn now, i am going to hurl

by orbison11 in

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friends

jesse is saying katherine knows she will see mj again, due to her faith.

(where is my hurl icon).