Another fav of the borg is , the world is passing away and so is it's desire but he that does the will of GOD remains forever . The also like the , be wise my son and make my heart rejoice and give reply to the one taunting me ... Both scriptures indicate actions not just lip praise . There's also jesus command in Mathew to go and make deciples , teaching them all they had learned and baptizing them in name of father son and holy spirit .
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John 3:16 - "believe" or "exercise faith?" Same thing?
by Faithful Witness ini recently asked my jw mother, if she believed that jesus died for her sins.
(john 3:16).
she agreed, but then added the jw party line, "you have to exercise faith also.
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John 3:16 - "believe" or "exercise faith?" Same thing?
by Faithful Witness ini recently asked my jw mother, if she believed that jesus died for her sins.
(john 3:16).
she agreed, but then added the jw party line, "you have to exercise faith also.
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the WTBTS does like to add the obedience to themselves as part of excercising faith , I know the apostles realized that it was about the preaching work , WTBTS favorite scripture is the apostle pauls faith without works is dead , jesus did tell the jews to excercise faith in him as the messiah , he did have prophetic warnings as to how Israel was going to be destroyed and when to flee . Most churches would point to the theif on the platform next to jesus having instant conversion and belief and going to heaven but they don't understand he wasn't going to heaven , that may have something to do with the change in translation .
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Satan thrown to earth "about" 1914?
by wearewatchingyouman inso i'm thumbing through the new "silver sword" and i notice that in the appendix under "message of the bible" that it says, "about 1914 jesus hurls the serpent satan to the earth...." i can't remeber ever hearing the word "about" and 1914 placed together before in regards to this event.
are there any jwapologists, or anyone else for that matter, who have an explanation for this?.
http://www.jw.org/en/publications/bible/nwt/appendix-b/message-of-the-bible/.
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cold steel - other religions don't calculate the 7 times of daniel , 7 times 360 ( a prophetic year) then a year for a day counting forward in time from 607 bce , the fall of judah and the captivity in babylon begins . You wind up with 1914 the year christ begins his heavenly rulership and the first thing he does is give satan the boot . To me 1914 fits because it matches jesus words of what his presence would be like in mathew 24 , nations would rise against nation and kingdom against kindgom ... more or less pin pointing a world war
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The Great Crowd and 144K explained
by Crazyguy ini was talking to the person who posts on this site www.wernerbiblecommentary.org and we were talking about his understanding of the great crowd and the 144k (his whole article is on the site).
anyway if you look at rev 5:10 these look to be the same as the great-crowd, being from the nations etc.
and are dead.
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wallsofjericho - that goes back to the rutherfords millions now living fiasco of which you still would be connected to the generation of 1914 of which there is about nobody from that time in the WTBTS . I would think both world wars can be considered a tribulation the world had not known before , certainly WW2 with the atom bomb being dropped and the alleged 6 million jew hollocaust and the persecution of christians that had no nationalistic ideaology . I believe with the rise of the NWO and the 666 beast will be the final test . Daniel 11 and 12 show the king of north and south fighting a war until the end .
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The Great Crowd and 144K explained
by Crazyguy ini was talking to the person who posts on this site www.wernerbiblecommentary.org and we were talking about his understanding of the great crowd and the 144k (his whole article is on the site).
anyway if you look at rev 5:10 these look to be the same as the great-crowd, being from the nations etc.
and are dead.
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The way I see it is the GC are saved during the tribulaion but the remnant are all martyred as in revelation it specifically says that the last of christs brothers is executed by the ax . The WTBTS seems to make up it's own dogma on the issue and claims the 144k simply nod off and are resurrected , does not make sense since in order to qualify you have to share in the same sort of suffering and humiliaiton as jesus .IMO
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New 1975? Jan 1st WT 2014
by notsurewheretogo inthis post was taken from reddit exjw but makes a very good point:.
these are two paragraphs of the watchtower of january 1st 2014.... .
i don't know about you guys, but in my mind, i'm seeing a deja vu of the articles before 1975 i've read.
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Once again they ignore how the elect die , they have to be martyred by the hand of world rulers , the only one they ever mention was the guy in a german concentration camp who was beheaded during WW2, IMO it does not include women . I don't get where they think only the generation receives holy spirit ,they never admit being spirit inspired so completely waste everyones time printing opinion they won't admit is opinion .
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Jan 2014 WT study - more vomit
by EndofMysteries inarticles such at "100 years of kingdom rule" in which jehovah has 'in a sense' begun ruling as king, and jesus in a sense was made king.
even though the kingdom hasn't actually come.
it's not clear if the 1,000 year reign has began or not, if so only 900 years left of jesus rule?
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they sure are turning this into a bigger quagmire , did I read that correctly , the this generation is still that of 1914? Like, who is still alive from that time that is a faithful dub ?I thought the emergency came when they realized there was no one left , you would be at least a hundred years old had you obeyed that first command not to kill but accept the prison sentance as in revelation thus leading to the death of the two witnesses prophesying , symbolizing the shut down of the printing presses and rutherford being incarcerated for sedition> that's their history in the revelation book . I think they did have some things right , whore of babylon ,the beast cenarios I think are fairly accurate . They just seem to not live up to the standards set as far as their leadership goes , I mean the UN thing seems to be a complete fiasco since they did alter the scarlet beast identity to an unkown for a bit as I was there and saw for myself . I agree that they should apologize and ask forgiveness for their mistakes , they do admit mistakes but insist they are not accountable to the church because they are imperfect humans , like we didn't already know that.
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Security cameras inside & outside the Kingdom Hall ?
by gingerbread ini recently heard from a family member who is still active about the new security system in her kh.. during the installation of the digital projector on the auditorium's ceiling, she said that the brothers who came to install it (i'm assuming some from the regional bldg group) also installed security cameras.. she specifically mentions a computer screen at the sound box that shows live feeds of - the parking lot, the carport/drop-off, interior view of the entrance, the lobby and magazine counter & the 'little room' ( the 'elders room' with conference table, computer and printers, filing cabinets, library, etc).. has anyone seen or heard of these being installed in a local hall ?.
comments?.
ginger.
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yah they could easily lock the door with a panic bar on the inside like at the movie house. The real point tho is whether or not that kind of thing should even be allowed under moral code and I think not , I don't think jesus cares if you get robbed , he told his apostles not to get upset or seek revenge . Any time you seek human authority in any matter you have disregarded the principles set by the bible on these matters.
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Security cameras inside & outside the Kingdom Hall ?
by gingerbread ini recently heard from a family member who is still active about the new security system in her kh.. during the installation of the digital projector on the auditorium's ceiling, she said that the brothers who came to install it (i'm assuming some from the regional bldg group) also installed security cameras.. she specifically mentions a computer screen at the sound box that shows live feeds of - the parking lot, the carport/drop-off, interior view of the entrance, the lobby and magazine counter & the 'little room' ( the 'elders room' with conference table, computer and printers, filing cabinets, library, etc).. has anyone seen or heard of these being installed in a local hall ?.
comments?.
ginger.
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I bet it's more to prevent insurance fraud on their grounds but still seems like the chistian thing to do would be to forgive and pray for the sinner rather than prosecute , I mean jeeze isn't that being friends with the world ? When they want to tho they sure don't mind getting cozy with the worlds legal apparatus which is one of the things soon to be destroyed by J ....
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GB planning their RAPTURE???
by bytheirworks inwith all this building in a secluded area.... .
is it possible that the gb could be planning their rapture?.
hear me out.
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So true chapstick , The UN main function was to promote the rothchild debt machine or fractional banking , The IMF is of course part of it , they've created so much debt the entire world is bankrupt and beyond.It was alot easier to claim they were helping nations modernize and develop than to actually go in and take them over through force , the thing doesn't work any better than our own congress which is bought and paid for by private interest .IMO