they sure are turning this into a bigger quagmire , did I read that correctly , the this generation is still that of 1914? Like, who is still alive from that time that is a faithful dub ?I thought the emergency came when they realized there was no one left , you would be at least a hundred years old had you obeyed that first command not to kill but accept the prison sentance as in revelation thus leading to the death of the two witnesses prophesying , symbolizing the shut down of the printing presses and rutherford being incarcerated for sedition> that's their history in the revelation book . I think they did have some things right , whore of babylon ,the beast cenarios I think are fairly accurate . They just seem to not live up to the standards set as far as their leadership goes , I mean the UN thing seems to be a complete fiasco since they did alter the scarlet beast identity to an unkown for a bit as I was there and saw for myself . I agree that they should apologize and ask forgiveness for their mistakes , they do admit mistakes but insist they are not accountable to the church because they are imperfect humans , like we didn't already know that.
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Jan 2014 WT study - more vomit
by EndofMysteries inarticles such at "100 years of kingdom rule" in which jehovah has 'in a sense' begun ruling as king, and jesus in a sense was made king.
even though the kingdom hasn't actually come.
it's not clear if the 1,000 year reign has began or not, if so only 900 years left of jesus rule?
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Security cameras inside & outside the Kingdom Hall ?
by gingerbread ini recently heard from a family member who is still active about the new security system in her kh.. during the installation of the digital projector on the auditorium's ceiling, she said that the brothers who came to install it (i'm assuming some from the regional bldg group) also installed security cameras.. she specifically mentions a computer screen at the sound box that shows live feeds of - the parking lot, the carport/drop-off, interior view of the entrance, the lobby and magazine counter & the 'little room' ( the 'elders room' with conference table, computer and printers, filing cabinets, library, etc).. has anyone seen or heard of these being installed in a local hall ?.
comments?.
ginger.
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yah they could easily lock the door with a panic bar on the inside like at the movie house. The real point tho is whether or not that kind of thing should even be allowed under moral code and I think not , I don't think jesus cares if you get robbed , he told his apostles not to get upset or seek revenge . Any time you seek human authority in any matter you have disregarded the principles set by the bible on these matters.
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Security cameras inside & outside the Kingdom Hall ?
by gingerbread ini recently heard from a family member who is still active about the new security system in her kh.. during the installation of the digital projector on the auditorium's ceiling, she said that the brothers who came to install it (i'm assuming some from the regional bldg group) also installed security cameras.. she specifically mentions a computer screen at the sound box that shows live feeds of - the parking lot, the carport/drop-off, interior view of the entrance, the lobby and magazine counter & the 'little room' ( the 'elders room' with conference table, computer and printers, filing cabinets, library, etc).. has anyone seen or heard of these being installed in a local hall ?.
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ginger.
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I bet it's more to prevent insurance fraud on their grounds but still seems like the chistian thing to do would be to forgive and pray for the sinner rather than prosecute , I mean jeeze isn't that being friends with the world ? When they want to tho they sure don't mind getting cozy with the worlds legal apparatus which is one of the things soon to be destroyed by J ....
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GB planning their RAPTURE???
by bytheirworks inwith all this building in a secluded area.... .
is it possible that the gb could be planning their rapture?.
hear me out.
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So true chapstick , The UN main function was to promote the rothchild debt machine or fractional banking , The IMF is of course part of it , they've created so much debt the entire world is bankrupt and beyond.It was alot easier to claim they were helping nations modernize and develop than to actually go in and take them over through force , the thing doesn't work any better than our own congress which is bought and paid for by private interest .IMO
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The reason why Jehovah's Witnesses are not false prophets
by 70wksfyrs inthis weeks km disscusses the topic of why jehovah's witnesses are not false prophets.. on page 136 and 137 of the reasoning book, it asks and answers the following question:.
have not jehovahs witnesses made errors in their teachings?.
jehovahs witnesses do not claim to be inspired prophets.
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BTW - there is immortality of the soul in the bible but it's not the same as what the mainstream believes . The GC never die so that's immortality of the soul ....
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GB planning their RAPTURE???
by bytheirworks inwith all this building in a secluded area.... .
is it possible that the gb could be planning their rapture?.
hear me out.
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I don't remember them talking about a rapture , the saints have to die but they don't believe they need be martyred by the human rulers of the world but they die of natural causes . The twinkling of an eye is in reference to how long they are dead , they get resurrected on the spot without actually being laid to rest. I believe the saints have to die as martyrs for preaching the gospel good news as what the bible clearly says in revelation very plainly and through out the entire new testament .Jesus even told them , they will deliver you up to be executed . NYC is run by the mafia so I don't blame them for wanting out and wouldn't doubt they've been pressured to leave .
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The reason why Jehovah's Witnesses are not false prophets
by 70wksfyrs inthis weeks km disscusses the topic of why jehovah's witnesses are not false prophets.. on page 136 and 137 of the reasoning book, it asks and answers the following question:.
have not jehovahs witnesses made errors in their teachings?.
jehovahs witnesses do not claim to be inspired prophets.
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complete BS , this is just some lame attempt again at trying to save face . Rutherford lied with millions now living he proclaimed to prophesy whenever he said that , if they aren't playing prophet then why don't they admit before they say something that it is an opinion? Revelation shows the 2 witnesses ,"prophesying", of which they claim was the magazines from the watch tower . Since interpretation belongs to GOD I woud assume one that interpreted the meanings of revelations is claiming to speak for GOD thus making them a prophet . That's the main reason I can't stand them is because whenever they are wrong they won't admit a lie or being false but all this mumbo jumbo of being imperfect men and adding the disclaimer of never actually saying out right they are playing prophet.
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Is The WTS Building Beth Sarim 2 ?
by metatron ini continue to puzzle over the future direction the watchtower is taking.
it seems very strange.. let's review: they are selling everything off in brooklyn, raking in huge sums from that real estate and building heavily in a fairly isolated part of upstate ny.. why?.
it may be classified as a country club (legally).
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looks like someone made an offer they coudn't refuse , I've heard that they are reinvesting big time in brooklyn so it may be the state was threatening imminent domain on them and they decided to take what the could . Getting out of the city would be a good thing I would imagine , they apparently couldn't pull an insurance scam like silverstein did with the WTC where they can claim multiple times .
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it's what the bible says , the WTBTS has made a complete farce out of it . supposedly identifying them in 1935 with millions now living . If you read what the bible says , you have to wait for what appears to be a global fascist tyranny or as conspiracy buffs call the NWO to begin forcing compliance for all humanity over all buying and selling to arrive . Not hard to imagine since they've been opperating for a long time covertly .
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Is that chart from the publications ? That's some pretty crazy crap since they promised the end before the generation of 1914 passed away until recently. If the generation of 1914 considered themselves saints then of course they would all be dead before the end since saints are always martyred for the kingdom preaching work . Trying to save face in this fassion is absurd , the only ones that never die are the great crowd . They can't make the same mistakes as before and claim people are in the GC since we haven't seen the 666 beast yet tho I think it's getting close myself but the GC survive all that insanity , that's how we know who the GC is. IMO