I think the right term would be martyred , the LF as I see it can't die of old age to qualify or natural causes , revelation 6:9-11 . They did publish an article about a jw in Nazi Germany that was tried and executed but that's the only example I know of for the 20th 21st century , they didn't make clear if he was LF tho , I know people in Germany and Russia had it pretty bad , the soviet union and the arab countries would no doubt put a quick end to them . anyway I guess this thread can go into the books as finished
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by heathen inhi guys , i know i was never a favorite here and haven't posted in awhile ... question .
what do you think of the new understanding of , " this generation " they seem to go in circles on this one big time , once 1914 generation was almost gone they said they didn't know what it meant and now in the new publication the generation includes the second generation after 1914 .... i agree they don't know what they are talking about and this is just another control move .
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by heathen inhi guys , i know i was never a favorite here and haven't posted in awhile ... question .
what do you think of the new understanding of , " this generation " they seem to go in circles on this one big time , once 1914 generation was almost gone they said they didn't know what it meant and now in the new publication the generation includes the second generation after 1914 .... i agree they don't know what they are talking about and this is just another control move .
any comments ?.
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half banana , we are talking about beliefs in what everyone here calls a cult , we are not talking about your lack of belief . You believe plenty that you have not seen personally witnessed but you are entitled to follow that path , science can't prove most of what they say about the universe , it's all debatable . most of the universe is invisible so how can they even debate it ?
anyway , nice to meet you
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Religions LIE and here's a whopper from a UK Christian Ministry
by nicolaou inkenneth copeland ministries europe (kcm) are a uk registered charity running their christian mission from bath.
the magazine cover below is their latest edition of 'believer's voice of victory'.
the quality isn't great so i've transcribed the lie below.. healed of autismwith two young autistic sons, deborah and christopher mcdermott faced each day with little hope of ever having normal lives.
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I do hate these fake faith healing religions ,,, complete sham
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the new understanding
by heathen inhi guys , i know i was never a favorite here and haven't posted in awhile ... question .
what do you think of the new understanding of , " this generation " they seem to go in circles on this one big time , once 1914 generation was almost gone they said they didn't know what it meant and now in the new publication the generation includes the second generation after 1914 .... i agree they don't know what they are talking about and this is just another control move .
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That's fine you don't believe, then this discussion is for those who want to discuss it , half banana . Religion and GOD are based on believing in the unseen , I am not interested in atheism . This religion sure is a confusing one , I agree with them that all others are corrupt and worthless . 1914 would have been my grandfather as well , he was in WW1 , the WTBS belief is that the generation sees the beginning of pangs of distress , we apparently can see that the world has not improved other than technology , we still see war famine and disease killing people . WW 3 is being talked about as much as during the cold war these days . I have no love for the church or it's members but find it a curious religion ..
interesting remarks all
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My Story
by HereIgo inmy story: i am a 27 year old ex jw.
former ms and regular pioneer at age 19. i was very active and had many "privileges" including district assembly and circuit assembly parts etc.
as an example for young people.
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That's what my thread is about , they once again tweaked , there are now only 2 over lapping generations of FDS , they should have stopped when they were ahead , instead they do another flip flop
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the new understanding
by heathen inhi guys , i know i was never a favorite here and haven't posted in awhile ... question .
what do you think of the new understanding of , " this generation " they seem to go in circles on this one big time , once 1914 generation was almost gone they said they didn't know what it meant and now in the new publication the generation includes the second generation after 1914 .... i agree they don't know what they are talking about and this is just another control move .
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that's another thing they go around in circles on, finklestein , they try to convince everyone they are GODs spirit directed organization but then when wrong will insist they never said it , all this stuff about jehovahs chariot making lightening quick changes in direction and them keeping up , implies they are directed some how , if you are going to do this thing , interpretations belong to GOD and he is the one that inspires prophesy , plus the FDS dogma also implies some sort of hot line to GOD .. anyway , obvious they are wrong again on the generation
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the new understanding
by heathen inhi guys , i know i was never a favorite here and haven't posted in awhile ... question .
what do you think of the new understanding of , " this generation " they seem to go in circles on this one big time , once 1914 generation was almost gone they said they didn't know what it meant and now in the new publication the generation includes the second generation after 1914 .... i agree they don't know what they are talking about and this is just another control move .
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The belief on that is he showed them a vision not that they were seeing the actual event , I think they saw enough to be convinced of who he was when he showed up after the resurrection . I think he was ruling then but the WT says he wasn't , Mathew 28:18 , then he went to be in heaven and told john he was watching everything from there and was judging them , he is the one that would beat the wicked slave as well . I do realize this site refutes anything they say as the truth , been screwing around here for a long time , I know there are some still in just so they can make their family happy .
thanks for the input tho
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the new understanding
by heathen inhi guys , i know i was never a favorite here and haven't posted in awhile ... question .
what do you think of the new understanding of , " this generation " they seem to go in circles on this one big time , once 1914 generation was almost gone they said they didn't know what it meant and now in the new publication the generation includes the second generation after 1914 .... i agree they don't know what they are talking about and this is just another control move .
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Unlike most of you I still think 1914 is significant , of course many things have come into question about the 7 times of Daniel and the fall of Judah in 607 BCE , I just base It on Mathew 24 so there seems to be some sort of relation as the kings of the earth war in Daniel 12 as well , king of north and south , I do think their Daniel prophesy book was too much , including too much history , when it comes to religion these people and most others never admit to a lie , just wish they would , instead we get it was some sort of old light , unbelievable the way they are
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the new understanding
by heathen inhi guys , i know i was never a favorite here and haven't posted in awhile ... question .
what do you think of the new understanding of , " this generation " they seem to go in circles on this one big time , once 1914 generation was almost gone they said they didn't know what it meant and now in the new publication the generation includes the second generation after 1914 .... i agree they don't know what they are talking about and this is just another control move .
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really but I think it was a control thing , instead of just saying it could include any generation since 1914 they needed to keep the sense of urgency up ,dying of old age was not the way I see the bible describing their final hours , revelation says the 4 winds of destruction are held back until the last of the number die by the ax , I don't believe it to be a symbolic death , the first church were all murdered by the romans or the jews .
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the new understanding
by heathen inhi guys , i know i was never a favorite here and haven't posted in awhile ... question .
what do you think of the new understanding of , " this generation " they seem to go in circles on this one big time , once 1914 generation was almost gone they said they didn't know what it meant and now in the new publication the generation includes the second generation after 1914 .... i agree they don't know what they are talking about and this is just another control move .
any comments ?.
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true it says they will not pass away until all the things happened , they do pass away , whether it's passing away as in death or passing away as in the world they live in passes away or some other type passing away , it is talking about passing away , the GC definitely not part of a death passing away . I have heard the LF talk as if they were going to share with the GC in not dying at a convention before , I believe they have to endure being imprisoned and executed as a final test and there are no governing body members that I know experienced that . Any way I think change will happen again ... It is frustrating they force you to believe whatever they say even if you think it's wrong and makes no sense , I just can't be a guy that repeats anything they hear because they are told they have to