I just bought this on amazon yesterday. I am looking forward to it arriving! I found C of C interesting (I haven't actually finished it entirely), but I want to know more about the mind control aspects. I was never "strong in the faith," so while CofC was interesting, it wasn't earth shattering.
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Sorry I haven't been on the board lately but...
by JimmyPage insorry i haven't been on the board lately but i've been reading steven hassan's "combatting cult mind control" and can't seem to put it down.
i bought it used on amazon for four bucks plus four bucks postage.
probably the most therapeutic eight bucks i've ever spent.
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Some single older women in bad circumstances
by LongHairGal ini am saddened and angry to observe the pitiful situation some of my jw single female friends are in.
they are over 40 and have little work record, hardly any money and in some instances compromised health issues.
i am angry because these women were waiting for armageddon to come and save them.
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It always seemed like the single older women were looked on as pathetic. It was so sad. They used to carpool together, and sit together at the meetings, but they never seemed that happy. They also really struggled. Actually, thinking back, all of them lived in trailers. Nothing against trailers, but one of them was only about 15 feet long. I had no idea how she lived in that.
I know of lots of "sisters" who are living paycheck to paycheck either because they married young just to have a husband leave them 20 years down the line, or never married and never got an education. Most of these either clean houses or take care of elderly people. Neither of these career paths have benefits or retirement, so I don't know what they will do when they can't work anymore.
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sex before marriage in the borg
by heyfea in(i don't know if i posted this already, since i got errors every time i tried) .
do you think that a lot of engaged jws have sex before getting married?
i think so, only a few fall into the guilt trip after they're married, and ultimately confess.
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I felt obligated to "confess" because I was raised to believe I had to confess any "wrongdoing." Living with the guilt was not an option. But being in a JC was a traumatizing experience, and one of the reasons I left for good. After that, I thought, I don't ever want to go before a group of men and be humiliated.
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sex before marriage in the borg
by heyfea in(i don't know if i posted this already, since i got errors every time i tried) .
do you think that a lot of engaged jws have sex before getting married?
i think so, only a few fall into the guilt trip after they're married, and ultimately confess.
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I guess I was a really naive witness. I really didn't think any had sex before marriage except those that got DF'ed or reproved beforehand. I did know one couple who later "bragged" that they did everything but sex before marriage. I just can't believe people wouldn't be so guilt ridden that they wouldn't confess. Why stay in the organization with all the rules if you are going to break them and not confess? What is the point? Just leave. But, then that is a little simplistic in light of the shunning.... I just would have felt like if I didn't confess, there would be no way I would survive the big A.
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I need advice on the current political situation in India
by changeling inmy son is thinking of doing an exchange program at a university in india next spring.
does anyone have reliable info to indicate whether or not it would be safe for an american young man to travel and live there for six months or so?.
changeling :).
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Just a note: Take the State Department travel sheets with a grain of salt. They always scare the crap outta me. The reality is *usually* quite a bit tamer. Imagine reading the city papers of big cities in the US without any knowledge of real life there...I wouldn't step out my door. LOL. Those travel sheets do have good info, but realize their intent...to be very cautious with US citizens.
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I need advice on the current political situation in India
by changeling inmy son is thinking of doing an exchange program at a university in india next spring.
does anyone have reliable info to indicate whether or not it would be safe for an american young man to travel and live there for six months or so?.
changeling :).
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I agree that it would depend on the area. But, generally, I would say it is pretty safe. (Off the top of my head, I would say avoid Kashmir and be cautious in the state of Bihar.) I spent several months all over India myself, and felt quite safe. I think the US is a particularly dangerous place really (especially our big cities), so compared to that, many other countries are surprisingly safe. As long as he has a good head on his shoulders and takes normal precautions, I think it would be an awesome experience. India is unique and has a lot to offer. He will be a changed man with greatly opened eyes! How exciting!
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No Girls Scout Cookies for you!
by independent_tre ineven though, i was raised in a witness home, i never remember hearing that girl scout cookies were a no-no.
and even though i've only been baptized for a few years, i don't remember any specific admonishment of these sweet treats.
but recently at work a jdub coworker made it a point to remind me that jw's do not buy or eat girl scout cookies.
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"In my addled memory, Girl/Boy Scouts were alllllllllllllll wrong, so no way would we support them. I never once tasted the delectable "Samoa" until a couple of years ago. Now I know they are from the devil."
This was definitely my experience too. It was one of the rebellious things I did went I stopped going to meetings! I bought thin mints. I, too, now know what all the fuss is about.
It is funny to me that other witnesses didn't have that prohibition. I didn't know any witnesses who ate girl scout cookies, and I surely would have judged them had I known any who did. LOL. I guess I can just chalk it up to the same reasoning that told us Smurfs were evil!
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MTS School???
by LearningMore incould someone explain what mts is?
i am assuming it is ministerial training school, but i don't really know the significance of it.
i keep hearing reference to it, but i guess i don't understand who attended, and what sort of prestige it provided.
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Thanks darth frosty!
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Appendix on DF in New Book released at Convention 2008
by InquiryMan insome scans have been made regarding blood and birthdays in the new book that was released at this year s conventions.
as could be seen from the index of the book, there is an appendix on the topic of disfellowshipping.
this as a topic that definitely concerns quite a few of this board.
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Thanks NestleBoy. It looks like things are getting pretty strict again. Really harsh regarding family members living outside of the home, and extending even a "hello" greeting to a DF'ed person.
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MTS School???
by LearningMore incould someone explain what mts is?
i am assuming it is ministerial training school, but i don't really know the significance of it.
i keep hearing reference to it, but i guess i don't understand who attended, and what sort of prestige it provided.
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Could someone explain what MTS is? I am assuming it is Ministerial Training School, but I don't really know the significance of it. I keep hearing reference to it, but I guess I don't understand who attended, and what sort of prestige it provided. (My family had no "male" witnesses in it, so I didn't have any direct experience with the various "privileges" available to men. And, I left so long ago, it seems like I forgot quite a bit!) Thanks!