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  Did you ever "love" the organization?

  by slimboyfat in

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  i am catching up on this july 15th study watchtower everyone is talking about.

  it's perhaps a bit more intense in its vitriol than has been published in the watchtower in a long while (since the early 1980s apostate witch hunt) but it's stuff we've all heard before, even down to comparing apostasy to an illness and calling apostates mentally diseased.. but the phrase that stuck out for me was this:.

  they may arise from within the congregation.

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  Absolutely! I loved it with my heart and soul - I loved the organization more than I loved God. My uncles went to prison during WWII for this organization. My aunts never married and devoted their entire lives to missonary work after graduating from some of the first classes of Gilied. I knew Knorr and Franz on a first name basis (Nathan came to our house many times when I was little) and one aunt is married to Joel Adams. I read "Faith on the March" more times than I can remember - and I was proud and honored to be associatiated with that organization. I volunteered at Patterson every May picking strawberries, thinking it was such an honor to do that.

  I absolutely loved the WBTS - and I believed in everything they said.
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  my mum taught us very valuable lessons about Jehovah in her special way. Any other parents out there as psycho?

  by God Chick in

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  ok before i start i know my mum was um "special" and had some, well...... bizzare training ideas.. .

  i was one of 7 kids, dad didnt help much coz he was sick, so my mum was left to run the 'ship' and she did it with an iron fist.. .

  we were never late for a meeting we sat, parents and 2 kids in one row the other 5 in row in front.

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  All these experiences are so painful to read.
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  Is it me or do the JW's act like the Circuit Overseer is Jesus himself?

  by stillstuckcruz in

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  i'm sure many have noticed that.

  now obviously many more will go out in fs than usual and such because the co brings more "insight" on fs than the usual brothers.

  understandable i guess.

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  My MIL (who was a 1st generation witness with an unbelieving husband) signed up to have the CO and his wife over for dinner. She thought this was one of the greatest honors a person could possibly have. She planned it for weeks - went all out with a 8 courses, top of the line food, no expense spared meal. She bought new dining room pictures, had the house professionally cleaned including carpets and drapes. It came time to serve dessert and the CO said he had made it very clear that dessert was not to be included in their lunch time meals. They thanked her and left. She was absolutely devastated - she felt she had failed the CO, the cong, the elders and Jehovah and Jesus. I felt so sorry for her that this stupid meal meant so much to her and for years so spoke of it like she had committed some form of apostacy at that meal. It was quite sad.
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  I was FORCED to go to the Memorial…

  by Yan Bibiyan in

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  i am about 2 days late and at least $2 short to the party, but here is my story.. who forced me to go?.

  well, i forced myself...why?

  the keep your enemies closer thingy.... first off, a brief background.

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  Yan - you are so sweet to take care of your wife like that.

  Your Memorial sounds much like mine. At least you had a bow tie to look at. Our speaker had on some leasure suit from the 70's and a tie that for sure came from Saver's.
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  If you could have dinner with any historical person...(top 3 choices)

  by Ron1968 in

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  if you could have dinner with any athlete, scientist, president, artist, or religious figure what would be your top 3 choices?.

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  Charles Dickens

  Frederick Chopin

  Evelyn Waugh
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  Were You Ever Treated "Differently" Because One of Your Family Members Was Disfellowshipped?

  by Was New Boy in

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  "by their love"...... shunning in the "borg" many times has effected not just the person that was dfed but other family members too.. my father was dfed in 1962 for "rebeliousness against the organization" he wanted to go to a different kh than we were assigned to.

  needless to say that decision was later reversed.. that was strange, but how the witnesses treated my mother, sister and myself....was even stranger.

  it was as if.... we now had some kind of leprosy.

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  Six months after I was married, one of my brothers was DF'ed. My husband was so embarrassed and ashamed. He let me know every chance he had that he never would have married me if he knew he was going to be related to Df'ed ones.
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  Temporarily tired of JW boyfriend. Should I: a) leave

  by SEL in

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  or b) continue in my plan of eventually getting him out with steve hassan's help?.

  option b is going to be expensive but not impossibly so.

  but it would require more patience than i think i have.

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  If you are tired of him now, imagine what it will be like after a few years of marriage (UGH)

  Here is some great advice....

  "I don’t need a man to rectify my existence. The most profound relationship we’ll ever have is the one with ourselves. "– Shirley MacLaine
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  Memorial musings

  by undercover in

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  things i thought about during the memorial talk last night:.

  i don't know if it was just the memorial i went to or if this was across the board, but it seems that the talk was dumbed down a bit more than it had been in the past.

  not that it wouldn't surprise me if was dumbed down.

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  UNDERCOVER

  Of course the two octogenarian elders they got to pray over the emblems decided to try to give their own Memorial talk in their prayer. On and on they droned. STFU already and pass the shit.

  He actually read 24 and then skipped to 26. These two verses show it's important to study, attend meetings, progress in our 'accurate' knowledge of the Bible (no shit, he actually said accurate). But what about verse 25. I read it on my own

  25 - In the same manner was not also Ra´hab the harlot declared righteous by works, after she had received the messengers hospitably and sent them out by another way?

  Okay - hold the phone... a whore was able to be declared righteous by works

  Undercover, the exact same thoughts about Rahab bothered me last night. I wanted that scripture read! I was using a different translation last night, and avoiding that scripture seemed like a big red flag.

  It has been 5 years since I stepped into a kH. Last night proved to me what has been said here over and over - Everything is being dumbed down. What is with those songs? My God - They are down right VULGAR!

  I was pleased with myself that I could text and pass the emblems at the same time though.
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  Memorial - How many on here went and how many didn't?

  by IMHO in

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  feel free to add why/why not?.

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  I went with 4 others - 2 siblings who have not been in a KH for20 years and their significant others who have never stepped foot in a KH. My parents begged, pleaded and bribed this year - it was easier to go than to stay home.

  It started late which meant I had to be social with the few people I knew - caught up on the weather, the kids etc. Did not bother to tell anyone I was DF'ed - I have always been a social person and I do not let the DF status affect who I talk to. My old friends seemed happy to see me. I have not been in a hall for 5 years - it all seemed so surreal. The songs were dreadful, the speaker monotone, the prayers seemed silly. I had 4 different people texting me throughout the service, so had a hard time focusing on the somber occasion. Plus I was desperately trying to find the final score of the CO Rockies game (they won).

  My brother said he felt good being ther, knowing he was no part of the stupidity anymore

  My sister was counting the minutes until she could take her gin cocktail and ambien (she complained her feet were swelling and someone smelled)

  My brother's girlfriend (who is the most upbeat person) came away totally depressed. She said it was one of the most depressing thing she has ever been to.

  My sister's boyfiend (a high profile defense attorney here in Denver) shook his head in disbelief that people buy into things like that.

  I was happy to get home to my 3 cats, a pot of tea and a movie - and forget that it ever happened.
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  Did you watch R rated movies when you were in it?

  by ldrnomo in

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  last night, i watched an r rated movie that featured violence.

  at least 30 people were shot in the first 45 min of the movie.. while i was in and an elder, i watched r rated movies all the time just didn't talk about it.

  so how many of you watched r rated movies even though "mother" said not to?.

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  All the time, at home and in the theaters.