Posts by Magwitch

there has been some interest recently about the moyle case, and how it may have set a precident in what became the society's disfellowshipping policy.

in july 1939, the chief legal counsel of the watchtower bible & tract society, olin r. moyle, resigned from his position in a protest over conditions at bethel and rutherford's mistreatment of workers.

he did not want to continue living under those conditions and he felt he could effect positive change for his brothers by taking such a stand.

Magwitch

Loving every word of this thread. Cannot thank you enough Leolaia. Your post #17,440 really interested me. I am from WI and the James Bourne and Dean Bourne families were my parent's very, very best friends. I looked up this Reginald A. Bourne to see if there was some connection and found this juicy piece of info on Reginald A. Bourne......

IOWA v. BOURNE was a 1942 Iowa criminal court case which involved one of the WatchTower Society's "District Sales Managers". In September 1942, a WatchTower Society "Zone Servant", named Reginald A. Bourne, 30, was arrested in Des Moines, Iowa, while performing duties as Chairman at the then ongoing WatchTower Convention. Reginald Bourne was thereafter convicted of "Contributing to the Delinquency of a Minor". There was possibly even more to the following story. Readers really need to look at a map to see what I am talking about. First, Bourne parked his travel trailer at Indianola, Iowa. The case revolved around a 16 year-old boy named Wayne Emmons, whose home was in Iowa City. Emmons was allegedly attracted to the Jehovah's Witnesses, against his parent's wishes, through relatives (possibly paternal grandparents) living in What Cheer, Iowa. Despite the fact that Bourne initially denied knowing anything about Emmon's disappearance, Bourne eventually confessed to giving money to the 16 year-old so that, puzzlingly, he could travel out-of-state to Madison, Wisconsin, to attend a JW Convention that was going on the exact same time as was the convention in Des Moines. Bourne even drove Emmons from either Iowa City or What Cheer to a bus station in Ames, Iowa, of all places??? Interestingly, references to a JW leader named "Reginald A. Bourne" disappear after this conviction. However, there is "an" Allen Bourne who was baptized around 1936, and who "pioneered" until 1946, when he was selected to attend Gilead (WatchTower's Missionary School), and who then was sent to Honduras for only four years, before returning to the U.S., and settling in Ohio in the 1950s. There is also "a" Dean Bourne, who was baptized around 1939, and who served as a "District Overseer" in Wisconsin and Iowa in the 1960s, after first also attending Gilead and also being sent to Honduras.

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Rutherford's smear campaign (a must read)

by Leolaia in

there has been some interest recently about the moyle case, and how it may have set a precident in what became the society's disfellowshipping policy.

in july 1939, the chief legal counsel of the watchtower bible & tract society, olin r. moyle, resigned from his position in a protest over conditions at bethel and rutherford's mistreatment of workers.

he did not want to continue living under those conditions and he felt he could effect positive change for his brothers by taking such a stand.

Magwitch

Thank you so much Leolaia! I am only through the 4th page of this thread, but am enjoying every word of it.

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My sister's house burned down

by Emma in

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friends

she and her husband live in rural wisconsin.

they were away for their anniversary when their home burned down, killing their three cats.

they lost everything.

Magwitch

Very, very sad. I feel terrible she lost her pets too.

What part of WI? I belonged to the Ladysmith cong for years.

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Dating tips for men- Requesting input

by keyser soze in

jw
friends

i've been thinking about putting together a pamphlet of things that have worked well for me over the years.

if it's successful, maybe it will lead to seminars or classes.

feel free to critique, or chime in with your own.

Magwitch

When eating dinner make sure you tell her about your health concerns, especially anything to do with bowel problems. Finish up by telling her the names of the two anti-depressants you are on (and do not forget to tell about the little blue pill you need to take)

It is also a good idea to let her know about the anger-management class you go to.

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Well, I talked with two active JWs about the latest understanding of the F&DS.

by Theocratic Sedition in

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friends

i know a brother who went to the most recent annual meeting.

older brother, non-annointed, elder, wife a pioneer, and overall a pretty good dude.

he let me take a peak at the new awake dropping in 2013, which by the way i have to give credit where it's due as i like the new 16 page format.

Magwitch

When I shared the noo lite with my uber righteous parents - their response was "Makes perfect sense"

Yes, doesn't it though? (Good God)

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Mrs Punk left the family!

by punkofnice in

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friends

it's nearly 2 months now but mrs punk finally left myself (mentally diseased apostate tm) with my 2 non kingdum hell attending boys.. she left when my jw daughter moved out and they moved in together.

i don't think it'll be long before my daughter gets sick of her mum but there you go!!.

i received a call from mrs punk to say: 'i didn't leave you because of the religion!'.

Magwitch

So sorry! I hope you and the boys can enjoy the peace.

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Had a visit on Saturday from 2 JWs

by poppers in

in the course of my encounter i let them know how i felt about their shunning policy and how it destroys families, and referenced oompa.

the lady said there would be more suicides if they didn't disfellowship people!

huh?

Magwitch

Excellent Poppers!

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Light a Candle for Oompa

by BabaYaga in

jw
friends

there is a lovely site where one may light a candle for a moment of silence.. http://www.gratefulness.org/candles.

i set up a group, where they may all flicker together, if you like.. http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/candles.cfm?l=eng&gi=oompa.

(we love and miss you, oompa.).

Magwitch

My candle is lit