one thing that jw's teach that i can't abide by is that god allows bad things to happen so that he can vindicate his name after satan challenged him in the garden of eden.
if you tell me that god is loving, than you cannot also state that he would allow an earthful of people to suffer starvation, cancer, war and countless other atrocities simply so that he feels better about being challenged.
he's god -right?
Candlelight,
With all due respect (and thank you for posting a response) quoting scripture may not answer the question raised on this thread. I think most people are looking for some logic, or reason that makes sense. If that cannot be provided, than I have to think maybe it doesn't exist.
one thing that jw's teach that i can't abide by is that god allows bad things to happen so that he can vindicate his name after satan challenged him in the garden of eden.
if you tell me that god is loving, than you cannot also state that he would allow an earthful of people to suffer starvation, cancer, war and countless other atrocities simply so that he feels better about being challenged.
he's god -right?
One thing that JW's teach that I can't abide by is that God allows bad things to happen so that he can vindicate his name after Satan challenged him in the garden of eden. If you tell me that God is loving, than you cannot also state that he would allow an earthful of people to suffer starvation, cancer, war and countless other atrocities simply so that he feels better about being challenged. He's God -right? It's logical to me, that if challenged he would have destroyed Satan and protected his creation. I simply could not ever watch my children suffer -even if they did something to hurt me. So these two teachings coming from the same organization are contradictory.
This teaching alone, is part of why I became agnostic.
this morning i called my parents to let them know my father-in-law made it through the night (he's got some blood clot problems).
my dad answers.
some of you probably have read how we have had issues in the past.
My dad sounds similar to your dad. I struggle because it seems my parents want to give just enough (barely enough) for a relationship with me and my kids. Recently I've gotten really down about it though because it's been going on for 8 years and I'm frustrated.
I wish you better luck with your folks.
i guess i'm just looking around for other parents experiencing similar situations as i am -while being df'd and having little family support!.
my oldest (9 yr old) son is asperger's (highly functioning autistic) and ocd.
i worked really hard with him through behavioral therapy and medication and he is doing so well.
Switch-if you ever want to discuss further feel free to contact me. I know the challenges of what you are going through. Although we have good insurance through the military the resources available for children with needs is surprisingly different based on the area you are in. I stayed with my sister in Dallas and found excellent care-back home on base, not so much. I stay in conact with the counselor in Michigan who helped my autistic son, she was a Godsend.
Babysitters-great idea! I just found a girl down the street through our soldier support center who babysits. I'm sure you'll find help to replace those girls at the hall.
i guess i'm just looking around for other parents experiencing similar situations as i am -while being df'd and having little family support!.
my oldest (9 yr old) son is asperger's (highly functioning autistic) and ocd.
i worked really hard with him through behavioral therapy and medication and he is doing so well.
It is so good hearing from you all-thank you. Just to hear other stories is a relief in itself.
tnangel-I feel for you. Before we had my son diagnosed people just kept telling me something was not 'right'. I questioned my skills as a parent (maybe I was doing something wrong) I questioned my sanity and many times I broke down and cried. The first time a child counselor brought up autism-which she didn't come out and say, she first said 'sensory issues' I was shocked and relieved all at the same time. I wanted to share with you, that if you can find a good child counselor someone with at least ten years experience (perhaps a MSW) and with patient based counseling strategy (this strategy offers unconditional support to the client instead of barraging you with everything you've ever done wrong) you might find some relief-I did. I just wanted to let you know that helped me in the past. Also Autism has a high co-morbidity rate so it is often diagnosed with other challenges like ADHD or OCD. Some other autistic traits to look for:
child avoids eye contact, dislikes feelings on skin such as clothing tags, sand, grass anything slightly abrasive, bright sun 'hurts' eyes, covers ears when people clap or yell, gags on certain foods because of feeling in mouth (tastes like worms, my son would say about spaghetti), not athletic or even coordinated, fails at certain academic tasks even though they are highly intelligent. Feel free to pm me anytime if you want to talk further-I could go on and on!
chickpea-I became a psychology student from the issues with my son, as well as my younger brother who was skitzophrenic. Thank you for sharing with me, I only know as a parent what challenges you face when you have children that have needs above and beyond the average. I feel strongly about the rights of individuals with gender related issues, your child is so lucky to have a supportive parent like you.
momcrzy-thanks I'm at Ft. Bragg- too bad!!!
i guess i'm just looking around for other parents experiencing similar situations as i am -while being df'd and having little family support!.
my oldest (9 yr old) son is asperger's (highly functioning autistic) and ocd.
i worked really hard with him through behavioral therapy and medication and he is doing so well.
I guess I'm just looking around for other parents experiencing similar situations as I am -while being df'd and having little family support!
My oldest (9 yr old) son is Asperger's (highly functioning autistic) and OCD. I worked really hard with him through behavioral therapy and medication and he is doing so well. You wouldn't even know if you met him that he sees the world so differently from other children.
Well during my pregnancy for my third child ( now 4 month old daughter) my husband was deployed to Iraq and I started having huge difficulties with our 2 1/2 year old son. He was behaving like an ADHD child, he couldn't sleep and was acting out thrill seeking behaviors and hurt himself all the time in the process. I found out after a year of investigation (doctor's, therapists, early childhood intervention) that he has auditory and vestibular delays.
I never knew what this was until he was diagnosed-these two systems inside his inner ear have not developed fully. It's a totally physical issue that can be developed properly through speech and occupational therapy. He cannot fully understand where his body is in relationship to auditory input or where the ground is at, how far away something is from him. It causes him a lot of anxiety and frustration (and me!).
But I am feeling so challenged as a parent right now. With a new baby, an Asperger's boy (who has been the subject of a custody battle between JW dad and myself) and my now 3 year old son who we're trying to coach through a physical delay. This has turned into a long post-but does anyone else here deal with high maintenance parenting on a limited support system?
for you to get rid of that 'new personality' and get back to normal when you left the jw's?
It's been ten years since the first inkling of 'this isn't me' through being df'd lots of drama with a JW ex and getting a higher education. I finally wake up each day and feel like I'm facing the day as I want to, not out of guilt, coersion or some other mind game. There are still moments of wondering if I'm a good person, but I won't base that concept on what I was programmed with as a JW.
two elders really annoyed me tonight.my husband was terminated from his job last week,so this week he's been doing odd jobs until his new job starts in two weeks.now the elders don't know that he is started a new job soon,so instead of asking him how everything is going the p.o asked my mom how she feels about her son in law losing his job and if everything is ok.why is it any of his business to know,and why ask my mom in the first place she doesn't know what goes on in our home.the another elder tells my husband that he needs to hurry up and find a job because the elders are watching him.what are they going to do df him for losing his job?what happened to the support that they are supposed to give us in our time of need?this whole org is a crock it's so freakin annoying.
I'm sorry for the hardship you and your husband are going through. Losing a job is very stressful for the whole family. Hang in there-lots of us go through it so you're not alone. Just remember whatever comes of it you can survive, you can get through it together (even though you might have a couple good arguments along the way : )
I agree with Flippers post. Once you're df'd you never hear from the elders again because you are outside their control-until then EVERYTHING you do is under the microscope. They should back off and give your family some space to figure things out.
wow, getting mail from the department of the army is a scary moment nowadays.
it wasn't certified mail, but i still had to stop and breathe before i could open it.
turns out its just my honorable discharge papers and certificate.
I'm happy for you! My hubby is active duty with a year to go and not sure whether to re-up or not.
I swear he's feels exactly the way you do. He hates it and loves it all at the same time. The only thing worse than war is a man not willing to fight for anything (loosely quoted from John Stuart mills).
when i go to my threrapist's office, while waiting in the waiting room, i look for wts and awakes.
when i find them i write on them a website either this one or silent lambs or i just write "this group is a cult" across the front of it.. one visit i found like 12 wts.
i didn't have time to scribble a note on all of them before my therapist called me in.. well this week.
How does your therapist feel about religious literature in the waiting room? Unless he/she is advertising as a christian counselor, she might agree that religious materials shouldn't be tolerated.
