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independent_tre
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Hello to all, can I have a moment of your time? Thanks!! from Truth and Justice
by Truth and Justice inthought i would properly introduce myself, being that i have posted here about 6 or 7 times since march of 2008. i do not want to create any sense of insecurity among the guests.. my name is truth and justice.
i have been reading this website since march of 2008 with great interest.
many times i have wanted to write and kept putting it off, because i just did not know how to put my thoughts on paper, especially when millions of people will read what i have written.
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New BOE letter re: parents permitting fornication
by sir82 inunfortunately i have no scanner.
but i thought y'all might like a glance into the latest mind of "mother".. i won't type out the whole thing, but just select pertinent parts to quote:.
"to all bodies of elders.
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independent_tre
Do they EVER get tired of trying to micromanage people's lives?? ?? You would think the elders have their hands full already.
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Now some might think that arrogant, judgemental and presumptuous of me to say such a thing about someone I barely know, based on a few comments on such an unreliable medium as the internet, but I know you will be Ok with it because that's how we roll on this thread, isn't it?
Yep, Great job Cog... It's sooo good to see you finally displaying some of the behavior you so adamantly claim to hate.
But since you seem to be scanning for professional diagnoses and advice on an internet forum, let me give you some:
You seem a little constipated, so maybe you shoud take an ex-lax and let the shit go.
Ah, but if I know you, you won't let that post quota drop, will ya? So, you should be posting another nonsensical rant in 5...4..3..2...1.....
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Betterdaze... Good point regarding legal precedence.
However in this case, I believe the doctor could have clearly backed out citing the dangers to the woman's and children's health. Many articles have shown that other fertility specialists and physicians believe that this went well beyond normal practice and that at most 2 embryos should have been implanted. I don't believe any physician is required to perform any medical procedure when the risks to the patients health outweigh any supposed benefits.
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Birthday party pic
by JimmyPage inwell i finally got my scanner working again.
it's a bit late but here's a pic from a birthday/christmas party that i threw for my little girl (both events fall at the same time for her).
not a big celebration but it's a start.
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independent_tre
awwww 2 cute!!
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Did you read my words? If so can you highlight where I said "drug addicted mothers make drug addicted children"?
BTW Independant_ ire hope you are enjoying your fade, i would not worry about the local congo finding you; you have given little away.
My congo has not found me here, and i am easy to identify every time i post here
I don't know about that. There are spies everywhere, I tells ya!! **Sister Tre dons her undercover glasses**
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independent_tre
Hi Independent_ Tre, you brought up the subject of how hard it is to watch young children being taken into care whose parents are irresponsible and drug addicts, in post 198. Thus you joined the two together, not me.
Um, no it was you.
You can not have it both ways, if this woman is ill she needs support, if not who are we to criticise her life choices?
The hell I can't. Ever heard of constructive criticism?
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*******And on the lighter side******
If I end up being outed & my fade exposed, as I have revealed far too much about myself in this thread, I am OFFICIALLY blaming ALL of you!
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independent_tre
Excuse me David, where did I say that drug addicted woman's children will grow up to be drug addicts? The system I was referring to is the foster care system of the U.S. And you're absolutely right, drug addicts are everywhere and guess what some of them DO actually take care of their kids! I know this for a fact personally, not professionally.
And let me clarify a few things before you go guessing and spouting, instead of reading. Part of the reason, I work with these children ( and some adults) is because I've lived around it (family) and lived through it. So being exposed to that type of environment definitely creates a passion for change, not for making excuses and lame @ss defenses. Dependency is a motherf*cka. And dealing with anyone who is addicted takes energy, patience, and the ability to confront bullsh!t when you see it.
So pardon me, if what I say seems a bit harsh for your delicate ears as it seems you would rather me coddle these individuals, than to actually work with them and give them the uncut, straight dope (pun intended) consequences of their irresponsible actions.
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Geez-Louise!!. Cog, don't be such a poo-poo head as my 2 year old would say. Stop taking an internet forum so personally and issuing personal attacks and so forth.
If this woman is so capable of taking care of 14 kids with no help. I say fine. She should go rent out a gigantic shoe and her and her children can live there happily ever after in the mess she's created.
****bangs fist on computer keyboard**** Wow, I never thought that I, a really easy going WOMAN with children of her own, would be accused of being a hate filled angry WOMAN!! That's new. I guess I better get used to it, really.
Anywho, I think I'll let my main girl Cog Dee have the last word on this one, as it seems she's sure to reply without saying anything new. Your Turn!
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Purps, that sounds like a book I should definitely read ( or maybe not). As I get so angry, I'm likely to blow my top!!
I'm laughing as I type this. No really I am.
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Oh Dave, Dave, Dave... what would you like me to do? Hold her figurative hand and say "There, there, Hon....It's okay. Have as many babies as you like. Why not shoot for 20!" Who are we to condemn this Frankenstein-ish bastardization of medical technology?
Maybe my "ire" if you will, comes from having to look square in the face of irresponsible parenting.
And you know what? The eyes on that face are usually closed and it's the most beautiful face in the world because that face is only a day old. The triage nurse has called me up to find out what to do with this beautiful face, cause Mom is a drug addict, and all 7 or 8 of her other children are all in state custody and she has since checked out AMA and has left the hospital, no name, no nothing. And dropped this child into the world as if it were yesterdays news. Do you know what it's like to have to place a 2 day old infant in foster care? Do you know what it's like to see a child come in to the emergency room because of abuse or neglect suffered at the hands of mothers ( and fathers) too caught up in there own issues to properly care for a child? Come do my job, 40 hours a week. Then maybe you can begin to comprehend real "ire".
IMO, this woman is too caught up in her own issues and obsessions to realize the potential harm she is doing to these children. And she probably cares the least bit about how her actions are impacting her family. And of course the public can probably kiss her @zz, even though it will be this very public that will end up paying for these children.
So before you go throwing your accusations of misogyny and contradictions, why don't you stroll on down to the county hospital or whatever they have in Hertfordshire, and take a look see at what happens when a woman ( or man, because outside of this extreme case of sperm donors, I believe men who father these children hold equal responsibility) thinks nothing of producing a child that she can barely care for. Then follow that child on down the years in the "system". Dave, you have no idea....