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  Breaking News : Planning application for new British Bethel to be submitted within 2 weeks

  by raymond frantz in

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  application for new british headquarters to be submitted within 2 weeks.

  the boys from bethel have been busy planning their new luxurius residence in chelmsford ,essex .the deal to purchuase the new land was in the region of 10million all financed from struggling jehovah's witnesses across the country .please read the news article and let me know what you think.. .

  instead of building in chelmsford how about building in a less affluent area "where the need is great", like cumbernauld in north larnakshire.

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  My comment can go into several posts, but i thought this is the most relevant one to the topic.

  During the weekend I had the privilege of talking to couple of brother on some aspects of the new changes that are happening, nothing spiritual.

  During the discussion the new bethel topic opened and what I heard was news to me:

  - The branch office is reducing the amount of volunteers for building the new facilities due to the fact that building flats to accommodate them will increase the costs.

  - Based on above, the branch is appointing external companies to do the bulk or major building work

  - Several brothers have been approached to send their bids for the construction work

  - Reason for new letters send, was underestimated expenses – in other word bad planning.

  - Some of the flats will get built and then will be sold for the public, I presume witnesses only but not sure how they can pull this off in UK.

  - Now waiting for final approval from GB to go on with the new bethel after major changes to the planning occured

  Da Furious
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  One day Assemblies and the removal of the RBC

  by A.proclaimer in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  so i was at a jw gathering today, and i over heard a brother telling a sister about these new changes.

  according to him, both one day circuit assemblies will be put together on the same weekend, one on saturday, the next on sunday.

  that way the assembly halls could be used to fit in more circuits as they increase in numbers.

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  On the weekend I was at a build and was surprised with the attitude of the overseers. First it started in the morning by saying:” Not be shocked but as you know by the end of this month the RBC will be dissolved”. He seemed Ok when he said it.

  Later on we started talking, and he was extremely upset. The method of communication between bethel and the RBC overseers was very minimal. They got emails saying thank you for your service. Somewhere asked if they can give up their jobs and support full time.

  At the build he didn’t even stay till the end. After lunch he just disappeared. There no overseers at the build at all – never seen this before!

  This is all outrageous. These people invested tens of years to help in building kingdom halls and support the society from their own money and all they get is: Thank you for your service.

  The good knew is they are migrating the RBC volunteers to the new construction department. The bad news is apparently they are shutting done several department, and as I understood construction and anything directly linked will be closed and not migrated to the new construction.

  Da Furious
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  New method of appointing Regular Pioneers!

  by stuckinarut2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  a new arrangement for appointing regular pioneers has been announced.. in the past, a person would have to fill in a form from the society, this would have to be approved by the local elders, then this would be sent to the branch for final approval and appointment.. now it is just the local elders that approve it.

  it doesn't need the branch approval any more.. they are selling it as a way to "speed up the process in order to be more effective in the ministry during these urgent times blah blah".

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  @just kidding: i am talking about regular pioneers. I knew some time ago reg pioneers used to be approved by the branch and the announcement was very similar to the elder/MS ones. But for some reason i thought this was scrapped and local elders approve them.

  After reading sir82 reply this got me thinking. I may have been confused with the process.

  So elders approve the reg pioneer and then send the approval for branch to sign-off. And this letter means there is no more requirement to have appointment signed off by branch. Elders can do this now on their own.

  So if you want to have a better status, start getting gifts and inviting the service committee to BBQs - you will get the status.
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  New method of appointing Regular Pioneers!

  by stuckinarut2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  a new arrangement for appointing regular pioneers has been announced.. in the past, a person would have to fill in a form from the society, this would have to be approved by the local elders, then this would be sent to the branch for final approval and appointment.. now it is just the local elders that approve it.

  it doesn't need the branch approval any more.. they are selling it as a way to "speed up the process in order to be more effective in the ministry during these urgent times blah blah".

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  Da.Furious

  That's the same thing i said, to my knowledge this has been like this for couple of years.

  Bit surprised! And the elder told me No, pioneers are approved by branch.

  Am i getting the new light faster than the GB?
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  How many use iPads or tablets in your cong?

  by stuckinarut2 in

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  2. friends

  a question for those that still attend meetings.... how many use tablets or ipads in your hall?.

  i did roving microphones this week, and i counted 43 people (variety of ages) out of an audience of 98!.

  just curious....

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  In our congregation, relatively small one around 50 publishers:

  25 have tablets of which 8 are full time pioneers (out of 14 pioneers).

  All elders, around 4 have tablets even some use them on the platform.

  In my family we all have ones, without them we cannot survive the whole meeting, well at least it stopped me from walking in the car park and try to come up with different reason every time.
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  Anyone else notice the new Terms of Use on jw.org?

  by leaving_quietly in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i first noticed it today... slides up at the bottom.

  i wonder why they felt the need to do this?

  this is just silly for a religious website..

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  I think they are also targeting everyone who is producing apps, and selling them or getting revenue from ads; these guys are traceable.

  But if a random user downloads a pdf publication and picks some quotes and/or small screenshots, they can’t do anything since this is considered fair usage especially if it is sourced. This is common practice everywhere.

  I think everyone should start suing them for using other people quoted without properly sourcing them in their publications!

  Da Furious
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  BOE Letter: Re: Our Kingdom Ministry

  by pixel in

  1. watchtower
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  you read it here first!.

  to all congregations.

  re: our kingdom ministry.

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  Da.Furious

  Thanks Pixel.

  @BluesBrother, someone on another post said that the english KM will be global from September. In my experience, i was using the US version from JWLeaks and the only difference i noticed was the stats they publish, all talks and discussions are identical.

  BTW, i live in London!
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  Watchtower transformation to JW.org - step by step TTATT recap

  by 4thgen in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  the watchtower has been making cunning and calculated changes in the organization to gain more money, power and control.

  jwn has a multitude of posts on the rapid metamorphosis of the watchtower into jw.org.

  please feel free to comment and interject your thoughts.

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  Totally Agree.

  As for the last point: TECHNOLOGY & LARGER GATHERINGS

  I have seen this happening in one country where the convention was done on one day and it was recorded. Then all other congregations watched that same recording. This is definitly content control and and not allowing speakers to change what the headquarters want to say.

  I have a felliing similar to OP that this will be the future trend - reminds me of the sci-fi movies where the top leader is seen on screen everywhere with the same message.
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  Question: Is JW religion the most attacked one?

  by Da.Furious in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i was having a chat with an elder and couple of friends regarding apostates and how to protect ourselves and funnily how to identify them!.

  during the discussion the elder mentioned: jehovah's witnesses is most attacked religion in the world.

  there are no other religions that are under the spotlight.

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  I have checked the 2014 YB and compared the list of countries with a US goverment coutries list. The and result is below:

  ***39 Countries are not on their list, but the yearbook states 30 other countries and terretories, i will identify the ones i am 100% sure they have JW in them (i.e active congregations).

  I was able to count 19 - 11 still not identified.

  Country	JWs
  Afghanistan
  Algeria	Yes
  Bahrain	Yes
  Bhutan
  Brunei
  Burma
  China	Yes
  Comoros	This may have been split to several islands, like they have done with others to inflate the numbers.
  Djibouti
  Egypt	Yes
  Eritrea	Yes
  Holy See
  Iran	Yes
  Iraq	Yes
  Jordan	Yes
  Korea, North
  Kuwait	Yes
  Laos
  Libya	Yes (not sure now)
  Maldives
  Mauritania
  Micronesia
  Monaco
  Morocco	Yes
  Netherlands Antilles
  Oman	Yes
  Palestinian Territories	Yes
  Qatar	Yes
  Saudi Arabia	Yes
  Singapore	Yes
  Somalia
  Syria	Yes (very reduced activity now)
  Tajikistan
  Tunisia	Yes
  Turkmenistan
  United Arab Emirates	Yes
  Uzbekistan
  Vietnam
  Yemen
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  Question: Is JW religion the most attacked one?

  by Da.Furious in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i was having a chat with an elder and couple of friends regarding apostates and how to protect ourselves and funnily how to identify them!.

  during the discussion the elder mentioned: jehovah's witnesses is most attacked religion in the world.

  there are no other religions that are under the spotlight.

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  Da.Furious

  @punkofnice apologies if my reply sounded not satirical. I was making fun of the JW published stats without source.