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Hmmmn..Intresting Convo with my DAD last NIGHT

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so me and my father who is an elder get into yet another rather tense discussions about the bible .

and my new found "beliefs".

one of the things we discussed was my belief that the way we conduct studies... .

dirtyknections

Hey,

Part 2 will be up tomorrow..I just got back from my parents house and we had a very intense but constructive conversation...I need to pray and think over the things that were said so that I can post an accurate account of what happened...I don't want anybody saying i took what they said out of context..
real quick check my new post if you like that discusses why I believe in GOD...Hopefully, that gives you a better understanding into why I say some of the things I do

Suffice it to say tho...the "ish has hit the fan"..

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WHY I believe there is a GOD..listen up...poster named "parakeet"

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simply put...i believe there is a god..and his name is yhwh aka jehovah..and his son yeshua or yehoshua aka jesus..died for our sins as a propitiatory ransom sacrifice to antone for mankinds sins..i therefore am also a creationist...i do not believe science contradicts the bible...rather i think it agrees and compliments it rather well.. .

i am creating this post in response to comments made in my last post by the poster named "parakeet"... i just thought i should explain myself before he/she starts deducting praise from me (see my last post)..lol...alright here goes.

i grew in a small town in florida called macclenny..population- 20,000.. my mother and her family were raised in this quaint little city...my family on my mothers side has been in this city since the early 1920's...ok...lemme me get to the meat of the story.. .

dirtyknections

Simply put...I believe there is a God..and his name is YHWH aka Jehovah..and his son Yeshua or Yehoshua AKA JESUS..died for our sins as a propitiatory ransom sacrifice to antone for mankinds sins..I therefore am also a creationist...I DO NOT believe science contradicts the bible...rather i think it agrees and compliments it rather well..

I am creating this post in response to comments made in my last post by the poster named "parakeet"... I just thought i should explain myself before he/she starts deducting praise from me (see my last post)..lol...alright here goes.

I grew in a small town in Florida called Macclenny..population- 20,000.. My mother and her family were raised in this quaint little city...my family on my mothers side has been in this city since the early 1920's...ok...lemme me get to the meat of the story..

My mother along with her siblings and mother/ father moved into the house I know as my grandparents house in the early 1950's...upon moving into this house strange things started to occur..the first thing that happened involved my grandfather...In my grandparents room they had a stand alone closet that stood on four feet...in otherwords the closet was not built into the wall..well my grandfather worked "puckwood"..aka he was a lumberjack..well he would get up around 4:30 am every morning and get ready to leave for work...well one morning shortly after they moved into the house he got up to get dressed for work...well upon opening the closet he found his work clothes shredded into pieces..

Well you know what he did...he woke up everyone in the house to see who had cut up his clothes...well of course all the kids denied it....therefore he promptly gave everyone a spanking since no one would admit to it...well a couple days later the same thing happened again...again he woke up the house...and again no one admitted to it...instead of spanking everyone he said that he was going to lock his closet and sleep with the key on his necklace...that way he would be able to determine if the kids were indeed doing it...WELL WHAT DO YOU THINK HAPPENED...yep you got it..

The next morning he woke up and all of his work clothes were shredded...and yes the key was still around his neck...suffice it to say...from that point on..all hell broke loose in the house...Ok..to keep from this turning into a novel..i will give you a bulleted list of common occurences in the house

-faces in the wall
-voices calling your name
-doors being marked upped and scratched
-spirits manifesting themselves as dogs, snakes, "devils, old women,
-people being choked
-covers being snatched off of people
-faces being caressed
-items moving and flying across the room
-items on the back porch being thrown about
-constant footsteps when nobody is there
-walls shaking
....and so on

I personally have experienced the "footsteps" many times.. and just for the record this has not only happened to just family but also to friends and visitors of the family..these things occur right up until this day...

My Uncle who lives in the house now that my grandparents have passed says he regularly... sees ominous figures...hears voices..footsteps..just recently he said upon emerging from the shower there was a dog-like creaturem on the dining room table that growled at him then jumped down and disappeared under the table...my mother just recently says she was sitting up there by herself waiting for my uncle and father to return when she heard loud footsteps in the back of the house...and they continued for about 20 mins and then stopped when she called on God's name...

Just so we are clear...the people who grew up in that house are now...nurses, hospital administrators, pastors, wood craftsmen, teachers, lawyers, and so on...i say this just to show you that my family aren't wack jobs...they are normal people who represent every level of the socioeconomic scale..I myself am a teacher who now runs his own business...I am a state certified teacher with dual degress in Entertainment Business and Recording Arts/ Music Theory

I literally could tell you hundreds of things that happened in that house!!!!

To sum up...I deduced rather quickly that...if their are evil spirit beings...there are obviously Good ones...AKA IF THE DEVIL AND HIS DEMONS ARE REAL...I KNOW GOD AND HIS SON ARE...

Thank You...fire away "parakeet"

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Hmmmn..Intresting Convo with my DAD last NIGHT

by dirtyknections in

so me and my father who is an elder get into yet another rather tense discussions about the bible .

and my new found "beliefs".

one of the things we discussed was my belief that the way we conduct studies... .

dirtyknections

Jadon....

THe problem with your logic...is that you ASSUME the information YOU have gathered into YOUR storehouse
will save lives...thats contrary totally to what Gods word the bible says...

2 Timothy 3:16 says, "all SCRIPTURE is inspired"...Ephesians 5:6, says to "let no man decieve you with empty words"...John 3:16 further lets me know that only Gods' provision of his sons ransom sacrifice can save us...so you can trust and follow in "Jadon's storehouse of info" if you like... I only follow Christ..

You should be careful, the bible says do not lean upon your on understanding...Gods' word is the only guide for us...Adam and Eve trusted in the devils "storehouse of info" and look where it got them..

Be careful that a serpent hasn't guided you to forbiden fruit...the consumption of that type of "fruit" can has everlasting repercussions

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Hmmmn..Intresting Convo with my DAD last NIGHT

by dirtyknections in

so me and my father who is an elder get into yet another rather tense discussions about the bible .

and my new found "beliefs".

one of the things we discussed was my belief that the way we conduct studies... .

dirtyknections

So me and my father who is an elder get into yet another rather tense discussions about the bible
and my new found "beliefs". One of the things we discussed was my belief that the way we conduct studies...

i.e. watchtower, revelation climax, bible teach...is not really studying but forcefeeding and leading to an already pre-prescribed answer...AKA the student is not really learning with discernment and wisdom, but rather just repeating the printed "answers" in the paragraphs.

Me being a teacher by trade, I understand intensely what it means to "teach". Experience shows that just because a student can regurgitate what is read, DOES NOT IN ANYWAY mean that student understands what they just read. The only way to ignite comprehension and understanding is thru the use of higher order questioning...you know something akin to "blooms taxonomy"...instead of "who", "what", and "where"..more "what if" and "what do you think"..lemme give you an example..

"As I was walking, I saw a dog chase a cat across the road."

Low order question- What chased the cat across the road?

High order question- What are some of the possible reasons the dog began chasing the cat?

Higher order question- Normally cats are afraid of dogs and will run if pursued by them. What do you think would happen if cats were no longer afriad of dogs? Cats are also highly trainable. What types of things would you teach a cat so as to help lessen its fear of dogs?

In teaching circles we call this "stepping up questions"...the key is to go from simple understanding to "synthesis", "evaluation", and "inferring"

I hate to be overly critical but the Watchtower and its adjoining publications , if used by themselves, are hardly suitable,to "teach". Because, of the inherent nature and form of the questions, if used by itself the Magazines and publications hardly do more than force the student to repeat the read info. Therefore, what you have is a group of people, who are nothing more than tape recorders. They record information and can play it back, but they do not fully understand what they have recorded.

I am firm believer, and my experience as a teacher proves, that a student only truly begans to comprehend when he becomes an "independent thinker". Until you develop that key learning skill, you will only have a human tape recorder, who tru to form, does exactly as it is told...never what IT discerns to be right...

PART 2 of this convo...coming later

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Vaccines, GB, Alt Service, blood- I think im starting to see the light

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hi all.. i am new to the board.

my story is reminiscent of just about everyone else on the board.

here is a quick run down.. .

dirtyknections

Dirtyknections: welcome to the board. you seem like you are very mature in some regards and in others, well maybe not so much.

"still_in74"

When you speak of my maturity or the lack thereof, I take it you think that i do not understand the possible repercussions of posting on a website such as this. I fully understand what could "possibly"
happen, but what i want you to realize is that i am fully prepared to deal with the consequences of my actions.

As i said in a previous post, if they want to disfellowship me for talking about the bible...then so be it...as far as bringing charges against me for apostacy or divisions and using that against me...my heavenly father knows my heart...in the words of Paul, "what can earthling man do to me"..I live and die in Christ..and Christ only..no man can give salvation only Christ thru my heavenly father. John 3:16

So for the record...I'm fully aware of the possible repercussions...I'm also fully prepared to follow God rather than men...Matthew 28:19,20 gives me a commission, no man can tell me not to talk about the bible.

Again,

Thank you for the concern

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Vaccines, GB, Alt Service, blood- I think im starting to see the light

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hi all.. i am new to the board.

my story is reminiscent of just about everyone else on the board.

here is a quick run down.. .

dirtyknections

Hey..Prov and midleman..and anybody who is concerned for

I really appreciate your concern for me...I guess i'm completely past the point of being concerned about what "men" can do to me...my salvation is given thru christ and christ only...i fear no one..

i'm subject to no one (except my wife...shoot i forgot to put the trash out)..i'm under the law of "love" and "faith"..not the law of men..

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Vaccines, GB, Alt Service, blood- I think im starting to see the light

by dirtyknections in

hi all.. i am new to the board.

my story is reminiscent of just about everyone else on the board.

here is a quick run down.. .

dirtyknections

Oops...just read the "terms" for posting...i did not realize that i couldnt post my phone number...my bad...i will remove it if someone can tell me how to edit a post...

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Vaccines, GB, Alt Service, blood- I think im starting to see the light

by dirtyknections in

hi all.. i am new to the board.

my story is reminiscent of just about everyone else on the board.

here is a quick run down.. .

dirtyknections

Lol...thank you all for the welcome..by the way i accidentally posted a duplicate post in the bible and doctrine thread..so ignore that one...but as far as being concerned about someone monitoring the board and then running and telling my cong so they can DF me...that i am not not worried about ;-) I am only concerned with staying true to the scriptures...and if the people who supposedly watch this board consider my presence here a "violation" of some sort...i say show me in scripture where talking about the bible is condemned...and if they feel my presence here is a "DF offense" then so be it... By the way a couple people in the other thread thought because i posted so much personal information that it had to be a joke...for the record i'm just a real open and honest person...and i see no reason to hide from anyone... for the folks that do..i can understand your concerns...your situation is obviously different from mind...and you want to careful about stiring the pot or ruffling the feathers..i respect and appreciate that...the org is diehard about "keeping the flock clean" sort of speak...and the loss of family and friends can be traumatic...shoot!!! it would rock my world a little bit ;-)..so i can definately understand and respect that... But if really want to know if this is a joke, ask the poster "middleman"..he actually called me last night and we talked for a couple hours...very cool guy by the way..very open minded and non-judgemental..hey "middleman" i'm getting those scriptures together...don't forget to get me that info on the nephilim... But anywho...the offer stands...call me up lets chat..and like someone in my duplicate thread said, "Lets get ready to rumble"..;-)

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Vaccines, GB, Alt Service, blood- I think im starting to see the light

by dirtyknections in

hi all.. i am new to the board.

my story is reminiscent of just about everyone else on the board.

here is a quick run down.. .

dirtyknections

Hi All.. I am new to the board. My story is reminiscent of just about everyone else on the board. Here is a quick run down.

My name is Anthony Alexander. I attend the Macclenny Congregation of Jehovahs witness in Glen St. Mary, Florida. Yes that is my real name. No I am not worried about anybody "snitching" on me..lol. I am a somewhat active member who is in good standing. I say somewhat because my activity has wained in the past few months since discovering some of the real truths about Gods Word the bible, and conversely some of the glaring realities about the org.

I am not into bashing the org, so you will probably never see those types of comments from me. That type of conversation, in my opinion, serves no real purpose other than to provide an outlet for pent up emotion and heartache. I am not frustrated with God...just disheartened by some of my current revelations about the org. I prefer more upbuilding talk (even tho a lot a folks here consider bashing the org upbuilding..lol) I love my heavenly father...simple as that. So atheist, keep it to yourselves ;-) Just Kidding..lol...i love all conversation that makes you think. So heres a condensed version of my "Witness Resume"

- Born into the "truth"

- Father an elder, Mother a Pioneer, 12 or so other relatives in the "truth" serving in varying levels of responsibility in the org.

- Gave my first "talk" at the age of 5

- Baptized Sept 11, 1993 at the age of 13

- Fell away from 1998-2005

- 2005 to present...Trying to be a good Christian

I have a lot of questions that can not be answered by the Org, but have clearly been answered for me by Gods Word the bible thru the help of his spirit. Here is a quick rundown of what caused my crisis of conscience (yeah it was a good read). Blood issue, Alt Service, Oral/ Anal Sex, Existence of a GB in biblical times, "This Generation", Disfellowshipping ( not whether we should..but the extent we take it),

Progessing truth aka "Old/ Light new light", Law or Faith and Love?...anyway

I hope to contribute positively to the board, and i pray that "the love of christ which surpasses all knowledge" envelopes the hearts of each and every person here...

Oh yeah if anyone would like to talk to me personally about anything I have said or say (future tense) on the board feel free to call me at 904-555-1234. Yes, thats not my real number...I know yall thinking im crazy...lol [edited to add: Forget the elders, consider that this post is open to the world. There's all kinds of crazy out there, not to mention identity theft. It's just plain good sense to maintain a certain privacy on the internet. - jgnat]

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Vaccines,Alt Srvc,GB, NEW/Old Light---I think i'm starting to see the light

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[edited: see duplicate thread http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/7/158726/1.ashx].

dirtyknections

[Edited: see duplicate thread http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/7/158726/1.ashx]