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why do we call ourselves apostates?

by recovering in

i think that the very act of questioning the teachings of the watchtower society does not make us apostates!!!

does not the bible teach us to examine what it teaches?

that is what the apostle paul says in the bible.

recovering

I think that the witnesses use the term to further try and control their members. I also tend to agree with psycologist who think such terms are used to brain wash and keep total control if it's members.

A remarkable thing about cult mind control is that it's so ordinary in the tactics and strategies of social influence employed. They are variants of well-known social psychological principles of compliance, conformity, persuasion, dissonance, reactance, framing, emotional manipulation, and others that are used on all of us daily to entice us: to buy, to try, to donate, to vote, to join, to change, to believe, to love, to hate the enemy.

Cult mind control is not different in kind from these everyday varieties, but in its greater intensity, persistence, duration, and scope. One difference is in its greater efforts to block quitting the group, by imposing high exit costs, replete with induced phobias of harm, failure, and personal isolation. Source: Phillip G. Zimbardo, Ph.D., What Is The Message Behind Today's Cults?

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why do we call ourselves apostates?

by recovering in

i think that the very act of questioning the teachings of the watchtower society does not make us apostates!!!

does not the bible teach us to examine what it teaches?

that is what the apostle paul says in the bible.

recovering

Thanks Gregor. I was not sure if those posting really did consider themselves apostates. I felt that by allowing the JWs to label us we where allowing them to still control our thoughts. I do question their policies and beliefs, however I do not think that I am actively opposing god.

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why do we call ourselves apostates?

by recovering in

i think that the very act of questioning the teachings of the watchtower society does not make us apostates!!!

does not the bible teach us to examine what it teaches?

that is what the apostle paul says in the bible.

recovering

I think that the very act of questioning the teachings of the watchtower society does not make us apostates!!! Does not the bible teach us to examine what it teaches? That is what the apostle Paul says in the bible. So if the bible says to examine what we are taught and only hold on to what is true, we should not be considered apostates in my opinion.

Examine everything carefully; hold fast to that which is good;
Bible quote, Apostle Paul, 1 Thessalonians 5: 21

Acts 5:29 Then Peter and the other apostles answered and said, We ought to obey God rather than men.

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Adventist lawyers bully small Jewish sect over name

by kurtbethel in

it looks like watchtower lawyers are not alone in protecting their business interests even if it means bullying someone's religious faith.. http://www.nctimes.com/articles/2008/12/21/news/sandiego/z5f313b68926a1807882575210081e64b.txt.

jewish group sued over 'adventist' namevalley center ---- what's the first thing that pops to mind upon hearing the word "adventist"?.

the seventh-day adventist church, probably.. .

recovering

interesting especially in view of the fact that witnesses are in fact an offshoot of 2nd day adventists

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FUN TEST! I am 37% JW!! Post your percentage here plz

by Tired of the Hypocrisy in

jw
friends

i found this online.

i have not seen it on here before so i thought i would post it.

it is a test to determine if you belong in the jw religion.

recovering

You are 23% Jehovah's Witness!

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Do You still Believe Some of the Doctrines?

by cameo-d in

even if you have left the jws are there still bits and pieces of the doctrines you still believe?.

what doctrines do you still believe that are taught by the wt?.

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recovering

When I take the bible's advice and examine their doctrines ,The only doctrines I believe in are these quotes from the bible...

Jer 23:21 I have not sent these prophets, yet they ran: I have not spoken to them, yet they prophesied.

Mat 7:15 Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.

Of course I think these scriptures apply to the witnesses

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I've done this before, but who is from MA?

by danfromma in

i was in the newton cong from about 86-96, never baptized..

recovering

I am from ma , grew up on cape cod

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Re: Is there a doctor in the house? Body builder?

by FiveShadows in

jw
friends

um....hi again.. you know, i post a comment and people started tearing eachother apart.

i work full time and have been very busy.

i wasn't even expecting many people to respond.

recovering

To further clear the air I harbor no ill will towards the poster with whom I had a disagreement with. I never thought the conversation would get as contentious as it did. In fact I am sorry it got so heated. However as a health care professional, who is an expert in the field, I would have been negligent if I had not set the record straight. There was an increased risk of mortality and illness associated with his treatment recommendation. My premise is supported by medical scientific fact. I was deeply concerned not only about your health FiveShadows , but of other readers of his recommendations. Again I am sorry it got as heated as it did, however I felt it would be irresponsible to not impart medical fact. I again would encourage you to use your physician for a sounding board when it comes to medical treatments. There is an abundance of misinformation on the web regarding "alternative treatments. Remember not all alternative medicine is bad, but please be careful.

By the way I am a Dr of medical radiation physics and I am a lithotripsy specialist.

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Made contact with an old friend

by recovering in

last night i made contact with a jw that was very special in my life at one time.

when my father died (i was still a child of 12) he and his wife where the only ones to take an interest in me and my younger brother.

they where exceptionally good to us.

recovering

Last night I made contact with A JW that was very special in my life at one time. When my father died (I was still a child of 12) He and his wife where the only ones to take an interest in me and my younger brother. They where exceptionally good to us. My friend was a MS. Over the years we lost contact with each other. I finally found him by doing an internet search. He is no longer a witness and is bitter about some of their practices. He still believes in the bible, but is opposed to the unforgiving dogma of the WBTS. He related tragic news to me. His best friend and a MS committed suicide due to the pressure of being a witness. My friend and I had a long discussion about how religion should be where you turn in times of crisis. How sad the jws have missed this completely. Instead of soothing the troubled spirit of their members, they add stress and heartache to them. Does not the bible say in Jeremiah that god would be our refuge in times of trouble?

19( AE ) O LORD, my strength and my stronghold,
(AF) my refuge in the day of trouble,

The witness hierarchy has a lot to answer for.

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DOES ANYONE KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT MYELODYSPLASTIC SYNDROME?

by Mary in

i just got some awful news.

my jw brother in law has been diagnosed with myelodysplastic syndrome.

needless to say, we are all extremely upset as it is a potentially life-threatening illness that can turn into leukemia.

recovering

May I ask if your brother has been exposed to any of the following; radiation, benzene (a solvent) or other harsh chemicals? Myelodysplastic syndrome is usually the result of exposure to environmental carcinogens? My field of expertise is not oncology; however I will try to answer your questions.