Posts by Kosonen

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meetings once a week

by Kosonen in

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meetings once a week is sufficient according to the bible.

in ezekiels tempel vision we get direction to how often meetings should be hold.

ezekiel 46:1,3:this is what the sovereign lord jehovah has said, as regards the gate of the inner courtyard that is facing east, it should continue shut for the six workdays, and on the sabbath day it should be opened, and on the day of the new moon it should be opened.3and the people of the land must bow down at the entrance of that gate on the sabbaths and on the new moons, before jehovah.. a similar thougth you find in isaiah 66:23. an extra meeting once a month could be nice too.. .

Kosonen

Meetings once a week is sufficient according to the bible. In Ezekiels tempel vision we get direction to how often meetings should be hold. Ezekiel 46:1,3:“This is what the Sovereign Lord Jehovah has said, ‘As regards the gate of the inner courtyard that is facing east, it should continue shut for the six workdays, and on the sabbath day it should be opened, and on the day of the new moon it should be opened. 3 And the people of the land must bow down at the entrance of that gate on the sabbaths and on the new moons, before Jehovah.

A similar thougth you find in Isaiah 66:23

An extra meeting once a month could be nice too.

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Is the Watchtower finally changing for the better?

by Dead Man Joaquin in

i'm having a hard time figuring things out here.

the last few years it's become increasingly cultish - i.e.

the public & kool-aid editions, the infamous november(?

Kosonen

I hope too. In fact the bible tells in 1 Timothy 2:1,2 that we should pray for our government that they could give us a good calm normal life.

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Is the Watchtower finally changing for the better?

by Dead Man Joaquin in

i'm having a hard time figuring things out here.

the last few years it's become increasingly cultish - i.e.

the public & kool-aid editions, the infamous november(?

Kosonen

I believe it will be better. The change with the meetings I also appeciate. In fact it can become even easier. According to the bible God´s people will come together once a week, and have a extra meeting once a month. (Ezekiel 46:1-3 and Isaiah 66:23) If you like you also can wright to GB and suggest that. Also preaching activity could become more balanced if we follow Jesus´s words in Luke 10:10.

Also the length of meeting programs could be shorter. Jesus´s sermon on the month takes only about 20 minutes to read through. In Mark 4:33 it is written that Jesus talked not longer than people enjoid to listen.

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Is there anyone here formerly of the "Annointed"?

by Low-Key Lysmith in

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i'm sure this question has been asked here before, but i was wondering if someone would care to enlighten us as to the undeniable "sign" or occurence that makes folks believe that they are of the annointed class?.

....or am i asking too personal a question?.

i've always been really curious as to what happens to these people to make them believe this beyond a shadow of a doubt.. apparitions?.

Kosonen

The Watchtower 1991 March 15 , article Who Really Have a Heavenly Calling gives the clearest answer.

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Faithful slave?

by Kosonen in

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we have allways heard someones calling them selves "discreet and faithfull slave"?

they say that jesus came in 1918 and approved them as discreet and faithful.

many of those were not yet born then, so could jesus have approved them before their birth?

Kosonen

I was batised when I was 13. Then 3 years ago I started to do what the organisation says about biblereading. To read a lot and to start the reading by asking guidance from Jehovah God. And often I have asked God to teach me someting new before the bible reading. And He have given me a lot of new understanding. About two month ago I decided to share with the study result with the governing body. I sent them 6 letters with different subjects. But I have not got any answer. I showed my elders also. One said you are may be right in all. But un other said we do not want that through you new thruths come. And they said we must dissfellowship you. I maid an appeal. But the other elders also decided to disfellowship me. But I continue to go to meetings with my family once a week. And believe that Jehovah gathers a people for his name, Jehovah´s wittnesses.

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tired and disappointed with the door to door

by buffalosrfree in

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heard my spouse utter those words today, nice words couldn't have been said, spouse is starting to realize that all that work in the d-d isn't paying off for those at the door nor for those knocking.

have been waiting for this for a long time

Kosonen

I have also started to think that it is not nessesary to go so often back to the territory, because Jesus said: If they do not receive you, go out from that city and wipe off the dust from your feet. Luke 10:10,11

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Faithful slave?

by Kosonen in

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friends

we have allways heard someones calling them selves "discreet and faithfull slave"?

they say that jesus came in 1918 and approved them as discreet and faithful.

many of those were not yet born then, so could jesus have approved them before their birth?

Kosonen

About what would you like to know?

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Faithful slave?

by Kosonen in

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friends

we have allways heard someones calling them selves "discreet and faithfull slave"?

they say that jesus came in 1918 and approved them as discreet and faithful.

many of those were not yet born then, so could jesus have approved them before their birth?

Kosonen

Excuse me, but I did not exactly understand what you would like to know?

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Identifying the "faithful and and discreet slave"

by tfjw in

identifying the "faithful and and discreet slave".

this question is mainly for former jws who consider themselves christians.

i'm wondering what or who, now that you are no longer in the society, you believe this "faithful and wise servant" ("faithful and discreet slave") is.

Kosonen

I like that you do personal resurch. I would like to share with my resurch results:

We have allways heard someones calling them selves "discreet and faithfull slave"? But sometimes it has been hard to understand if they really are discreet and faithful. They say that Jesus came in 1918 and approved them as discreet and faithful. Many of those were not yet born then, so could Jesus have approved them before their birth? I do not believe that. Instead Jesus said that he that has endured to the end will be saved. (Matthew 24:13) I believe that Jesus has appointed slaves to give spiritual food to other sheeps. In fact all the anointed ones are His slaves. But not all of theese slaves serve well. That is why Jesus asks Who really is the faithful and discreet slave? When somebody becames anointed I understand, then he becames appointed to give spiritual food. And later when his Master arrives he will appoint him over all his belongings. When will this happen? I believe it will be shortly before Armageddon, when the finaly approved slaves get the kingdom.

And someting about 1914:

In God´s holy word the bible you can find evidence that God´s Kingdom was not established in 1914. And according to the prophecies it will be estblished later in the future. And we can not calculate the time point. In Acts 1:7 the apostles asked " Lord, are you restoring the kingdom to Israel at this time?" And in the next verse he said to them: It does not belong to you to know times or appointed times which the Father has placed under his own authority. So, Jesus did not give any hope that we could calculate when God´s Kingdom will be established.

At the bookstudy we have also learnt about 3 woes, wich give more evidence that God´s kingdom is not yet established in heaven. We have learnt that we live in the time of the second woe, caused by the cavalry of two myriads of myriads. (Revelation 9:12-11:14) That is at the time when also the other sheep are spreading the kingdom message. This time period is quite long. This even causes a feeling of delay.( Revelation 10:6,7) The first woe brought locusts, wich symbolise anointed cristians in their symbolic 5 month preaching campain. But remark that according to the prophesy, the 3:rd woe comes with the establishement of the kingdom of God.( Revelation 11:14,15) After that the real catastrophy begins, the 3:rd woe. Satan will be hurled down to the earth.(Rev. chapter 12) That is I believe the great tribulation before Armageddon.

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Biblical evidence against 1914

by Kosonen in

in god s holy word the bible you can find evidence that god s kingdom was not established in 1914. and according to the prophecies it will be estblished later in the future.

and we can not calculate the time point.

in acts 1:7 the apostles asked " lord, are you restoring the kingdom to israel at this time?

Kosonen

In God´s holy word the bible you can find evidence that God´s Kingdom was not established in 1914. And according to the prophecies it will be estblished later in the future. And we can not calculate the time point. In Acts 1:7 the apostles asked " Lord, are you restoring the kingdom to Israel at this time?" And in the next verse he said to them: It does not belong to you to know times or appointed times which the Father has placed under his own authority. So, Jesus did not give any hope that we could calculate when God´s Kingdom will be established.

At the bookstudy we have also learnt about 3 woes, wich give more evidence that God´s kingdom is not yet established in heaven. We have learnt that we live in the time of the second woe, caused by the cavalry of two myriads of myriads. (Revelation 9:12-11:14) That is at the time when also the other sheep are spreading the kingdom message. This time period is quite long. This even causes a feeling of delay.( Revelation 10:6,7) The first woe brought locusts, wich symbolise anointed cristians in their symbolic 5 month preaching campain. But remark that according to the prophesy, the 3:rd woe comes with the establishement of the kingdom of God.( Revelation 11:14,15) After that the real catastrophy begins, the 3:rd woe. Satan will be hurled down to the earth.(Rev. chapter 12) That is, I believe the great tribulation before Armageddon.