I have heard similar stories. They try to get your account number, but they would not put their money there, but they try to steal your money from your account.
Kosonen
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WTF? Anyone else get this?
by AWAKE&WATCHING ingot this in a pm about three days ago so sorry if it's been discussed.
from: scott williams., .
country: ivory coast .
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Comments you will NOT hear at the Congregation Bible Study Week Starting March 23
by LUKEWARM in(b) how can we choose associates who will influence us for the good?.
does god love non jw's?.
6 jehovah loves those who love jesus, his only-begotten son.
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Kosonen
Thanks for putting the material here. I agree well with the content in the paragraphs. I'm surprized that it urges to love Jesus. That was long ago I heard something similar in the litterature. But that right. Are they improving? But a little disappointment was of course what paragraph 6 said about how to show our love for Jesus. It stresses really hard the preaching work. But in the last WT-study it was made very clear that we should not concider preaching more important than doing fine works, showing love in helpful deeds within the congregation. But of course the last WT has the "newest light".
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If You Could & Still Attended, What Suggestions Would You Give The Elders?
by minimus inwhat would like to tell the elders that you knew?.
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Kosonen
I would say them to chose between the Governing Body and the truth in different issues. Infact they are giving more worship, devotion, faithfulness to the Organization and it's Governing Body than Jehovah God. That is what I would like to tell them all.
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New anointed rejected by the WT-society
by Kosonen innew anointed rejected by the wt-society.
i listened through the lates download wt, june 15, 2009. www.jw.org there is an article: the faithful steward and its governing body.. this article makes it clear that new anointed will not be consulted in preparing spiritual food.
other sheep are also told in other words not to listen to the opinion of new anointed in the congregations.. .
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Kosonen
New anointed rejected by the WT-society
I listened through the lates download WT, June 15, 2009. www.jw.org There is an article: The Faithful Steward and Its Governing Body.
This article makes it clear that new anointed will not be consulted in preparing spiritual food. Other sheep are also told in other words not to listen to the opinion of new anointed in the congregations.
I do not doubt that the members of the governing body are anointed. But their behavior has become evil.
I think many Jehovah's witnesses are curios what the new anointed have to say. This article could even more stir up curiosity.
So, what should be done? According to the WT the anointed are suposed to give spiritual food. But the same WT deprives the anointed this obligation.
Therefore I would like if all rejected anointed gathered together, exchanged thoughts, found a common basis. Arranged meetings to organize future action.
I would suggest that anointed brothers were grouped together in groupes of maybe 2-5 persons. Then they could offer different congregations to become their elders. That means to take over congregations. By the time these congregations would propably grow spiritually and propably new anointed would appear. When it would be possible, some of these anointed could offer to take over another congregation.
I believe that when a congregation would be lead by a group of anointed it would be blessed spiritually. And they would grow fast by brothers and sisters who would move to that congregation with anointed elders.
If you know any new anointed in the congregations and have the possibility, please try to get them involved in a such deal. I'm willing to assist as much as I can.
Brother JanMy e-mail [email protected]
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GB Member says....
by Kosonen insamuel herd, a governing body member says in his speach "the miracle of prayer":.
"god does not answer all prayers.
prayers for world peace, he does not answer them.".
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Kosonen
Samuel Herd, a Governing Body member says in his speach "The Miracle of Prayer":
"God does not answer all prayers. Here are an example or two. Prayers for world peace, he does not answer them."
http://www.jwforum.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=69&t=1704
(I was there actually and listened to his talk.) But even this statement is wrong, because apostle Paul urged us to pray for peace and said there will be a time when they will say Peace and Security!
In 1 Timothy 2:1,2 we are urged to pray for peace: I therefore exhort, first of all, that supplications, prayers, intercessions, offerings of thanks, be made concerning all sorts of men, 2 concerning kings and all those who are in high station; in order that we may go on leading a calm and quiet life with full godly devotion and seriousness.
A similar thought we find in Jeremiah 29:7 7 Also, seek the peace of the city to which I have caused YOU to go into exile, and pray in its behalf to Jehovah, for in its peace there will prove to be peace for YOU yourselves.
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The Miracle of Prayer - Samuel Herd, Governing Body Member
by Kosonen ini found his talk at http://www.jwforum.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=69&t=1704.
here is a part of his talk.
is he indicating that we should pray for gb so that jehovah god would open their eyes?.
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Kosonen
How can they claim to be "Faithful and Discret"?
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Something creepy during a study
by kurtbethel inso, the local jw troops have stepped up my study because i have had a difficult time swallowing the "truth", and have sent a ms to speed things along.
he mentioned satan tempting eve, and i said i had never read that.
sure, so there is a serpent tempting eve in genesis 3, but no satan.
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Kosonen
You could ask a little simple question. Wich woe introduces the birth of God's Kingdom, according to Revelation? Well, he should know but if not, tell him that it's the 3:rd woe. Then ask, according to the Revelation do we not live in the 2:ond woe? So where is the birth of God's Kingdom? Tell him if he do not understand, that's in the future.
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The Miracle of Prayer - Samuel Herd, Governing Body Member
by Kosonen ini found his talk at http://www.jwforum.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=69&t=1704.
here is a part of his talk.
is he indicating that we should pray for gb so that jehovah god would open their eyes?.
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Kosonen
I found his talk at http://www.jwforum.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=69&t=1704
Here is a part of his talk. Is he indicating that we should pray for GB so that Jehovah God would open their eyes?
Here's a modern day example. Back in the 50's, some sisters found out that they were married to homosexuals and some even had children by these immoral men. When they found out, they were appalled and they wrote to headquarters. During that time, however, it was not understood that homosexuality was considered fornication. So the response to these sisters from headquarters was that if they divorce, they were not free to remarry. So these sisters were in somewhat a dilemma. They were not happy. They could not stand to even look at these men, but what could they do? Headquarters had spoken. Sad situation. However, these sisters kept praying to Jehovah and begged his help. Jehovah heard those prayers and answered them. He caused his organization to take in depth look a the word porneia, translated fornication and they found that, yes, homosexuality falls under that umbrella, that these men are just as sin-sick as if they would have been if they committed adultery and yes, our sisters could choose to divorce these men and remain free to remarry if they wanted to. It took time, it took a lot of time, but Jehovah answered these prayers.
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Comments For Service Meeting This Week
by dismayed infor those attending, a couple of possible comments for the service meeting.
there is a "2009 yearbook" part where the audience gets to gush over the statistics that they found interesting.
how bout "i was really impressed with the number of memorial partakers last year, with an increase of about 10% over last year and nearly 10,000 partakers, it looks like we will be privileged to have many anointed with us for some time" or.
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Kosonen
I would suggest them just to put tracts in all mailboxes twice a year. Those who are intersted could anyway easily come in contact.
Is it not exactly that the Revelation vision about the cavalery means? The litterature which is spread means two miriads of miriads, = 200 millions.
In this vision the cavalry man sits quietly on the horse, and it is the horse which talks, by fire from its mouth and by biting with the tail.
I think every witness would like a such change!
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Kosonen
Your question: Using the bible, can you show proof of the date 1914?
My answer: Using the bible, you can crush the date 1914.
It is a sin and misstake to try to calculate the timepoint of God's Kingdom's establishment, as well as to predict the time point of the battle of Armageddon.
The apostles asked Jesus: "Lord, are you restoring the kingdom to Israel at this time?" 7 He said to them: "It does not belong to you to get knowledge of times and seasons which the Father has placed in his own jurisdiction; -Acts 1:6,7
Apostle Paul reaffirmed the principle in 1 Thessalonians 5:1: Now as for times and seasons, brothers, you need nothing to be written to you.
But a witness would point to the coincidence of the First World War in 1914. But the simple coincidence in calculating the year 1914 is a result of their disobedience. Satan then lead the nations to go to war that year, in order to make the Watchtower society believe that they did not sin in guessing about times ad seasons. Watchtower-society had just got rid of many false teachings and understood the Bible surely in the best way compared to other societies. So of course Satan had to try to deceive them in some way. And it has worked until now.