Posts by Kosonen

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For those faking meeting attendance

by His Excellency in

jw
friends

for those of you who are still faking meeting attendance and field service, do you still greet the dubs after the sessions?.

because for me, i am increasingly finding it difficult to showcase any fake smile and pretend everything is allright.

in fact, i'm already getting exhausted with the hypocrisy, i just have to remain in for family reasons.

Kosonen

The Quiet One,

l know Jesus denounced the Pharisees etc. but it was only after this baptism at an age of 30. Before that he was "a quiet one" ordinary citizen working as a carpenter.

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For those faking meeting attendance

by His Excellency in

jw
friends

for those of you who are still faking meeting attendance and field service, do you still greet the dubs after the sessions?.

because for me, i am increasingly finding it difficult to showcase any fake smile and pretend everything is allright.

in fact, i'm already getting exhausted with the hypocrisy, i just have to remain in for family reasons.

And you want to understand what to do now. l suggest you to think about Jesus' example. He new all the false doctrines of the Pharisees and other teachers in the synagoges and at the temple. But he did nothing to it before the appointed time. He just went along. Because any way they where responsible for the teaching of God's law. And people could learn some true things. Once Jesus said: Do all what the Pharisees teach but do not according to their deeds. But he did not mean that in an absolute sense of course. ln the same way we can benefit from the WT even when it is not 100 % true. If you know something that God does not require but GB demands. Just don't burden your self with that.

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For those faking meeting attendance

by His Excellency in

jw
friends

for those of you who are still faking meeting attendance and field service, do you still greet the dubs after the sessions?.

because for me, i am increasingly finding it difficult to showcase any fake smile and pretend everything is allright.

in fact, i'm already getting exhausted with the hypocrisy, i just have to remain in for family reasons.

Kosonen

His Excellency,

Nobody listens to me any way. So l am not interested anymore in founding an own religion. And to be objective all other religions are worse than JW. l am more disgusted by them. And it is true that there are fine people within JW. You can just fake to belive every thing or is it not OK to have doubts if you don't disturb the congregation? Then you can enjoy the company of your jw friends and relatives. l know of a brother that does that for long time now. And l think that is the smartest way to deal with the situation. In other words not to be too righteous. But also smart. Even the bible says don't be overmuch righteous.

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For those faking meeting attendance

by His Excellency in

jw
friends

for those of you who are still faking meeting attendance and field service, do you still greet the dubs after the sessions?.

because for me, i am increasingly finding it difficult to showcase any fake smile and pretend everything is allright.

in fact, i'm already getting exhausted with the hypocrisy, i just have to remain in for family reasons.

Kosonen

His Excellency,

Your question about Finland. Well l will keep it secret. l want to continue to be active at forums for Jehovah God's sake. To help his people not to stumble and completely lose faith in Him, His word and His promises.

l hope l will not be caught for posting here. I would like to be able to post on such forums and in the same time be active in the congregation. I want to try and see if it will work.

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For those faking meeting attendance

by His Excellency in

jw
friends

for those of you who are still faking meeting attendance and field service, do you still greet the dubs after the sessions?.

because for me, i am increasingly finding it difficult to showcase any fake smile and pretend everything is allright.

in fact, i'm already getting exhausted with the hypocrisy, i just have to remain in for family reasons.

Kosonen

But now l have decided to get back there. l have seen that there are no better alternatives any way. So the best thing l think is to ignore things we don't like. And not to expect perfection in anything. And l really mean anything. The problem we have is that we have heard that we live in a spiritual paradise, we are in the truth we are the true religion we will be happy it we do all what the GB says because it is as if Jehovah spoke himself.

And when we realize that it is not exactly like that we feel hurt, decieved, angry. The words does not match the reality. And we are ready to throw it all in to a garbage bin. But is that wise? Take un illustration: You buy the best available car in the world. But the salesman promises you twice as much when you buy it. And after you bought it you discover that the car was not that good as you were promised. But it is still the best car in the world. Would not you keep the car till a better care appears?

That's why l want to get reinstated. l have not found any thing better for 5 years. So l just have to be content or l will lose even more.

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For those faking meeting attendance

by His Excellency in

jw
friends

for those of you who are still faking meeting attendance and field service, do you still greet the dubs after the sessions?.

because for me, i am increasingly finding it difficult to showcase any fake smile and pretend everything is allright.

in fact, i'm already getting exhausted with the hypocrisy, i just have to remain in for family reasons.

Kosonen

l know exactly what it feels. l then stopped to go to meetings for 4 years. l could not sit there and listen to things that l considered to be false or untrue'

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Can Christendom be both Babylon the Great and the "net" gathering people for God's Kingdom???

by Kosonen in

the greatest man-book (wt-org.

) on chaper 43 defines what the net symbolizes, when jesus said:47 again, the kingdom of heaven is like unto a net, that was cast into the sea, and gathered of every kind:48 which, when it was filled, they drew up on the beach; and they sat down, and gathered the good into vessels, but the bad they cast away.

(matthew 13:47,48) the explanation in the litterature of wt-org is that the net represents all organizations claiming to christian.

Kosonen

No I have not read Ray Franz's books. I partially begun to read online, but I fear breaking the commandment of abstaining from blood, but I noticed that Ray Franz did not consider this to be important.

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Can Christendom be both Babylon the Great and the "net" gathering people for God's Kingdom???

by Kosonen in

the greatest man-book (wt-org.

) on chaper 43 defines what the net symbolizes, when jesus said:47 again, the kingdom of heaven is like unto a net, that was cast into the sea, and gathered of every kind:48 which, when it was filled, they drew up on the beach; and they sat down, and gathered the good into vessels, but the bad they cast away.

(matthew 13:47,48) the explanation in the litterature of wt-org is that the net represents all organizations claiming to christian.

Kosonen

Hi there, I'll clarify my standing for you. My wife is still jw and my children go to meetings with them. And I like to read My Book with Biblical Stories to my youngest son. I had carefully avoided any apostate material until I was disfellowshiped as an apostate. The elders said that I could with my ideas start a new religion. But I just wanted help them to have a more accurate knowledge of the truth. All my differing understanding appeared while I was reading the bible and just every time before reading I prayed for God's holy spirit's guidance. It all happened during about 3 years while I was still a jw. Finally I started to speak about it to brothers and sisters and but first I offered GB in a letter my help to clarify them the truth about a whole list of matters. It was about 5 years ago.

I hope everyone would do the same. Just examine the holy scriptures and praying God to guide them constantly and I think we all would be lead to the same understanding of the truth.

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Can Christendom be both Babylon the Great and the "net" gathering people for God's Kingdom???

by Kosonen in

the greatest man-book (wt-org.

) on chaper 43 defines what the net symbolizes, when jesus said:47 again, the kingdom of heaven is like unto a net, that was cast into the sea, and gathered of every kind:48 which, when it was filled, they drew up on the beach; and they sat down, and gathered the good into vessels, but the bad they cast away.

(matthew 13:47,48) the explanation in the litterature of wt-org is that the net represents all organizations claiming to christian.

Kosonen

The Greatest Man-book (wt-org.) on chaper 43 defines what the net symbolizes, when Jesus said: 47 Again, the kingdom of heaven is like unto a net, that was cast into the sea, and gathered of every kind: 48 which, when it was filled, they drew up on the beach; and they sat down, and gathered the good into vessels, but the bad they cast away. (Matthew 13:47,48) The explanation in the litterature of wt-org is that the net represents all organizations claiming to christian. So how then can they at the same time except for WT-organization be the Babylon the Great, the most evil symbol you can find in the Bible? And if all other religious organizations are Babylon the Great, when did they become it? For example when Martin Luther revolted against the Pope, when did Martin Luther become him self a part of Babylon the Great? Or did he ever become that. Thanks to him Europe got freedom to read the Bible.

And I would also like to ask: How could the bishops under Constntine decide what the Bible canon is, if they where at the same time Babylon the Great? Did the Bible come from Babylon the Great? I find the definition of Babylon the Great so untrue by jw-org and other christian organizations. Every one is pointing the finger to something I find very untrue. Does not the situation today resemble the time when John the Baptist, the "Elijah" began to preach repentance and God's kingdom and the coming of Messiah? When he begun to preach there where different sects competing for the audience in Israel and non of them was the chanel of salvation. But they served their role because Jesus said: do all what they teach, but do not according to their deeds. Simmilarly here we have "about 35000 christian organizations" teaching different aspects of the Gospel, even though not near 100% is accurate knowledge. It is like the jewish sects in that time. But until now we have not seen the second coming of Elijah, who would restore all things. So I don't believe christian organizations can be the mystery Babylon the Great. What do you think it rather is?

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Why don't established religions care about Ron Wyatt's archaelogical findings confirming the Bible?

by Kosonen in

why don't established religions care about ron wyatt's archaelogical findings confirming the bible?

what does that reveal about them?

have you any idea?.

Kosonen

Hi unstopableravens,

I'm sorry that I have forced you to wait for replies. But I am often busy. I have not time to sit with the computer much. I would like to witness about the truth more but I can't. Maybe later God will give me more time. And now it is middle of the night here. But you ask my answer to statments that are infavor for the idea that Jesus is God. Well, I would say there are ambiguous statments about almost everything in the Bible and people chose to interprete them as they like.

So, I would say why Tomas said "Oh my God". It's the same as today people say: "Oh my God" without meaning it. And why did John say the the word was god? Well here he exaggerated a little bit, because he loved Jesus so much, wasn't he the apostle that Jesus loved especially much? Remember also that John in Revelation admits his misstake to try to worship an angel. So therefor I understand why John easily could say ambiguous things about Jesus without meaning it, and people would missunderstood that.

Doesn't this well known verse tell you something?: For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son...

If you ask a kid according to this verse can God be the Son he gave? He would most propably say no, but God gave his Son.

So according to this verse the Son Jesus is not God. But God sent him. That's the simple truth. The other ambiguous verses are just to trap and to make stumbe a certain kind of people so that they would not understand the truth.

It's the manner of God to handle matters, not to let everyone understand the truth. You have to be like an innocent child. Because Jesus said: Verily I say unto you, Whosoever shall not receive the kingdom of God as a little child, he shall in no wise enter therein.