Love your wife, love your kids, be patient and give her space. The more you rant and rave against the WTS, the more she'll see it as persecution and thus confirmation that she's right and you're from the devil. Seriously.
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They make me Sick!!
by wary init makes s me sick that the witnesses have such a hold over people.
ive told my wife and shown her all the crap about the society but she still insists ongoing to meetings.
shes off again this afternoon and taking the kids.
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How did you feel about attending another church?
by digderidoo inthis question is for those who have attended another church since leaving the jw's.. i have considered attending a local church, firstly out of curiosity and secondly because i do enjoy discussing the bible with people and learning new thoughts on scripture.. the only thing that stops me though is crossing that line.
i guess it was a bit like when i first posted here, it took me ages to pluck up the courage and now what was the big deal?.
did anyone else have this feeling before attending another church, that feeling of crossing the line of no return.
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My wife and I attending different churches one Sunday last September. This was the first time either of us had been in a church for anything other than a funeral.
We met up for lunch to compare notes and discovered we'd had similar experiences. Both churches used the Bible extensively, sang praises to Jesus and talked about Christian love, forgiveness etc and God's grace.
Since then we go to church every Sunday. We've realised that there's nothing to fear. We visited several churches in our local area - all of them evangelical - before deciding to settle in Riverside Gospel Church (we're getting baptised very soon). The people we now view as friends all love the Bible, love God, love serving him and genuinely want to help people come to faith in Jesus Christ, whether that happens in Riverside church or not isn't important to them.
One teaching that all Christians should follow is the eating of Christ's flesh and drinking his blood; taking communion.
Jehovah's Witnesses en mass do not do this, therefore they are not Christian and do not have the right to impose any standards as to what they think real Christian churches should be doing.
Therefore, all of the evils you've been told about Christians and their churches has been fed to you by an Organisation that ritualistically denies the very sacrifice of the Head of the congregation; Jesus. As a result, if I were you I'd re-evaluate all of the misgivings the WTS has fed you about going to church.
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NEW BLOG - Door-to-Door; is that really what counts?
by passwordprotected in"door-to-door"; is that really what counts?.
please feel free to share.. .
jehovahs witnesses proudly point to their door-to-door work as fulfilling scriptures like matthew 24:14;.
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@ wobble, absolutely. I try to be careful in my blog posts not to give the JWs an easy out by saying "Ah! You see this is where...." etc etc. I prefer to let them have a couple of jabs, then reel them in for the big upper cut... In otherwords, I try to avoid being overly confrontational as it's difficult to reason with a JW if they've got their dukes up.
Jeez, what's with all the boxing analogies?
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NEW BLOG - Door-to-Door; is that really what counts?
by passwordprotected in"door-to-door"; is that really what counts?.
please feel free to share.. .
jehovahs witnesses proudly point to their door-to-door work as fulfilling scriptures like matthew 24:14;.
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@ keyser - yeah, I cover that in brief in the blog post. I'm focusing on what happens after the door-to-door.
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NEW BLOG - Door-to-Door; is that really what counts?
by passwordprotected in"door-to-door"; is that really what counts?.
please feel free to share.. .
jehovahs witnesses proudly point to their door-to-door work as fulfilling scriptures like matthew 24:14;.
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"Door-to-Door"; is that really what counts?
Please feel free to share.
Jehovah’s Witnesses proudly point to their door-to-door work as fulfilling scriptures like Matthew 24:14;
And this good news of the kingdom will be preached in all the inhabited earth for a witness to all the nations; and then the end will come.
Even though it is provable and measurable that many Christian groups have ministries, spreading the Gospel of Christ, distributing Bibles and baptising in the name of the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit, a faithful Jehovah’s Witness will be quick to point out that they alone go from house-to-house and door-to-door, as per the 1st C model;
Acts 5: And every day in the temple and from house to house they continued without letup teaching and declaring the good news about the Christ, Jesus
Acts 20: while I did not hold back from telling YOU any of the things that were profitable nor from teachingYOU publicly and from house to house.
This is the argument used to ‘prove’ that Jehovah’s Witnesses alone are the true Christians and that their ministry alone is the only one approved by Christ.
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Do you think JW's really know the "Truth" about the "Truth"?
by Quirky1 inwith the many threads surfacing here focusing on internet access opening eyes of beleivers and the unsuccessful d2d work, how many do you think really know the truth and are just going with the motions?
and if so, what is there reasoning?
family, freinds, etc...
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@ WTWizzard, while I agree with you up to a point, I know of several active JWs in positions of responsibility who do look at apostate sites. I remember being told - as an elder - that the BSG arrangement was ending before the letter was read out. This was known by two MSs and a pioneer in our old congregation. The only way they could have had access to that info would be from sites like this.
Another JW I know, a former elder, spoke to me during my exit about 'some of the things apostates say'. They only we he could know what 'apostates say' is if he was associating with them IRL or online.
And lastly, a JW who has popped up to see me in my DAd state has hinted strongly that he knows some of big apostate objections to 'the truth'.
All of these guys stay in the Org for one personal reason or another, most likely to do with family. They know there are issues, they've seen the facts, but they choose to stay.
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Do you think JW's really know the "Truth" about the "Truth"?
by Quirky1 inwith the many threads surfacing here focusing on internet access opening eyes of beleivers and the unsuccessful d2d work, how many do you think really know the truth and are just going with the motions?
and if so, what is there reasoning?
family, freinds, etc...
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I had a niggling doubt that maybe something wasn't right. The issue that kept cropping up was the elevation of the WTS above the Bible, but I didn't give that thought a lot of head-space. I was too busy working hard in the congregation. All doubts and issues were duly shelved.
Like LeavingWT, as soon as I realised I'd been lied to by the men in Brooklyn my whole life, I up and left immediately.
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We Don't Want to Know Why You're Leaving
by passwordprotected inour exit from the watch tower society was fairly speedy.
within about 3 months, we'd ceased attending meetings and lost all of our friends (apart from hobo ken and his wife).. what was shocking - and only confirmed that we were right to leave - was how our decision was met by our so-called friends.. we were leaving behind people whom we'd enjoyed friendship for over 20 years.
we were leaving behind friends who were closer to us than our own families were.
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One friend of Gail's, during what turned out to be their last conversation ever, told her, "I'm looking at you and I can see that it's you, but somehow it's not you."
This is a woman who's known Gail like a sister since they were teenagers. And because Gail had stopped going to meetings, she'd ceased to be the human being that her friend had known.
Yes, she looked physically the same.
Yes, when she spoke her voice was the same.
But now her "love for Jehovah" wasn't the same. She'd turned her back on Jehovah, was the friend's conclusion.*
*This confirmed to me that it's impossible for most JWs to disentangle the name Jehovah with the notion of buildings, books, magazines and old men.
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God's Love book: Appendix optional (if it's too kooky, just skip it, per KM)
by Open mind inthis week's q&a on using the keep yourself in god's love book says that coverage of the appendix with bible students is optional.
anybody else pick up on this?.
my take on it is, if you, the jw sales rep, think that anything in the appendix is going to raise eyebrows with your potential convert, just skip over it.
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Gain the Victory Over Masturbation
The very fact that it's potentially mandatory to study material such as this with a grown adult just shows what a kooky religion it is. Seriously.
I've been attending church for almost 6 months and I've never heard them talk about things like oral sex, anal sex, masturbation - mutual or otherwise. Why? Because it's between you and God and you and your spouse; it's nothing to do with the church.
Y'know what they spend a lot of time talking about in church?
Jesus.
Crazy, huh?
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Running ahead of Jehovah
by donny inas i was exiting the society back in 1992, the elders were frantically trying to reason with me and kept saying that i was trying to run ahead of jehovah or running ahead of the organization?
just what does that entail?.
or they would tell me to "wait on jehovah" and eventually some of my beliefs/issues will be in line with the truth.
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The best one is 'leaving the teaching of Christ' that they like to cite. Since when was 1914 a teaching of the Christ?