Posts by passwordprotected

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What Works Best on Exposing JW's? All of the above....

by AllTimeJeff in

there are some days when i log in here and because of my own views on governing body dogma (which is, its a big smelly stinky wet pile of shit), i find myself writing essays about subjects concerning how nutty their doctrines really are, how weak they are.

so i do these expose's and at the end of it, i feel better, because i know, (i know!

) that the governing body are cynical liars, and that their doctrine is total crap.. i know this is good for those who actually care enough to take up the gb on its offer to "study the deeper things", might question what they find, and want some other info... thats how it started with me.... lately however..... this other way, where you simply mock jw's.... when i first came here, i was pretty sensitive to that.

passwordprotected

"It still amazes me that people can go through the effort to free themselves from that experience and then go out and join some Church and convince themselves to believe even worse things about God.

Haven't they learned any life lessons."

Don't knock what you haven't tried. While I can understand people choosing not to believe in God, for those who have a faith in the supernatural exploring this in church isn't anywhere near equatable with sitting through a meeting in the Kingdom Hall.

For a start, you're allowed to disagree and ask questions. You're allowed to consider all of the evidence. For example, I know of many Christians who've read the God Delusion. But how many JWs have read Crisis of Conscience?

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What Works Best on Exposing JW's? All of the above....

by AllTimeJeff in

there are some days when i log in here and because of my own views on governing body dogma (which is, its a big smelly stinky wet pile of shit), i find myself writing essays about subjects concerning how nutty their doctrines really are, how weak they are.

so i do these expose's and at the end of it, i feel better, because i know, (i know!

) that the governing body are cynical liars, and that their doctrine is total crap.. i know this is good for those who actually care enough to take up the gb on its offer to "study the deeper things", might question what they find, and want some other info... thats how it started with me.... lately however..... this other way, where you simply mock jw's.... when i first came here, i was pretty sensitive to that.

passwordprotected

Jeff, I think a level of balance is needed, in particular from yourself. You've always written in a considered but uncompromising way. I'd wager that's the way to best reach a JW who's confused and worried about how they're feeling re. having doubts and is looking for some truth.

It's my opinion that's there enough vitriol against the JWs on this forum, and while I completely understand why people feel that way (and Reniaa's posts certainly don't help), exiting or doubting JWs need a firm voice of reason, which, IMO, you helped provide.

So, by all means shoot from the hip when you have to, but don't lose what you've been offering on JWN and freeminds.

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Everyone is missing a good chance to make a statement on this website

by LearningToFly in

jw
friends

i understand we are all sick of hearing about michael jackson.

this website called the kaleidoscope factor has numerous pro-jw comments posted by obvious jw's, with few posts telling the truth about the religion.. here is the link that was posted in another post: http://traceyricksfoster.wordpress.com/2009/07/16/michael-jacksons-children-attend-local-kingdom-hall-of-jehovahs-witnesses-with-aunt/.

here is a good chance to make a statement, one which will be seen by many.. regards,.

passwordprotected

damn... that moderator is a real piece of work "put the old books away and join us in the 21st century", well, here in the 21st century they teach jesus selected them based on what the taught up to ... 1919! so is that not the only really relevant time to check out? i mean, if jesus selected them back then, everything they teach now must be true regardless, if he didnt, well ..

Very good point.

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Examining the Scriptures Daily Text: We Will Kill Our Opposers

by cameo-d in

fri., july 17, 2009. .

i shall seek to annhiliate all the nations that are coming against jerusalem.--------zech.

translate:.

passwordprotected

It's amazing how quickly you forget how inward looking the WTS really is.

Billions of people are going to be destroyed at Armageddon just because the United Nations has turned against the Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society? I bet you Jim Jones and David Koresh spouted similar skewed nonsense.

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Everybody say hi to my husband...

by cognac in

jw
friends

because we have a stinken spy on our hands!

oh, and he wants to let everyone know that he is unbreakable in the truth.

as a matter of fact, hes going out in service both saturday and sunday.

passwordprotected

Hi Cognac's Hubby!

I was unbreakable too until I noticed how much control the Governing Body actually have and how they're happy to reverse decades of teaching from the Bible because the price of gas is increasing (remember the reason they gave for canceling the Book Study Group?).

I hope field service was ok, I know it can be a drag at times. Hopefully your time was used as productively as possible and that as many people as could be reached actually were; remember, the message you bear is life saving.

By the way, on Sunday during the Watchtower Study, just for your own entertainment, notice how often the "faithful and discreet slave" is mentioned and compare that with how often Jesus is mentioned. Then look up John 14:6.

Have a great weekend.

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As of July 1st No more reimbursements directly to CO's etc. from congregations.

by cattails in

well if i read it correctly it seems that at the spanish extj.com forum.

there's a letter (in spanish of course) saying there's a change in the.

way reimbursement of expenses are going to be made for co's, and.

passwordprotected

The monthly accounts report should be posted on the board, it should also be read out once per month during the "Service" Meeting. The CO's expenses are not put forward for resolution as they are always on or under £100 (UK). Anything over that needs to go to the congregation.

In days gone by you'd hear a resolution for the CO's expenses, however what wasn't announced was that the CO already had the money.

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As of July 1st No more reimbursements directly to CO's etc. from congregations.

by cattails in

well if i read it correctly it seems that at the spanish extj.com forum.

there's a letter (in spanish of course) saying there's a change in the.

way reimbursement of expenses are going to be made for co's, and.

passwordprotected

Secret handshakes take the form of people within a congregation giving the CO and his wife a card, letter, envelop etc, with cash in it.

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MJ's kids spotted entering a KH

by tsar_robles in

jacko's kids: let us prayposted jul 15th 2009 2:40am by tmz staff.

a week after speaking at her father's memorial, paris jackson (left) with older brother michael jr. (right) were spotted entering a jehovah's witness kingdom hall on tuesday.. .

.

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How come they're so caucasian?

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Bookstudy's topic Blood- Personal conscience or the WT's Teachings?

by yknot in

so tonight we wrapped up chap.

7 of "keep in ted's laws"........blood (((gene smalley--favorite subject!))).

i did my best to drown out the whole subject as it is just too damn annoying!

passwordprotected

That was something that really jumped out at me from the book when I received it at last year's convention, how the WTS are expecting the R&F to be able to explain to a doctor why they can accept blood fractions.

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Watchtower Society greedily steals Witness Tsunami relief fund...Sick!

by Witness 007 in

just after the tsunami brothers donated millions in relief funds, marked "for the tsunami victims"....not realizing few brothers lived in these muslim areas.

problem is the society wanted this money for itself so..... kingdom ministry nov 2005 {11 months after tsunami} "last year brothers donated towards those effected by the tsunami disaster...however, when donations are earmarked for certain disasters it is...to use these funds only as specified by the donor {so what?

} and within a certain period of time, whether the needs of the brothers have been cared for locally or not.

passwordprotected

I was accounts servant when the tsunami struck. Our secretary wanted to put aside of the contributions boxes for the R&F to donate money to the R&F in the affected area. This pulled in over £3000. We had a congregation of around 65.

I tried to point out to him and the PO that the Society do not like donations to be sent for specific "causes", but they instead have an account (including a Giro bank payment book here in the UK) for that very purpose. I pointed out that they like to decide where and how the money donated to this "relief fund" gets spent.

As the OP rightly points out, 11 months later this note comes from the Org saying, "please don't tell us how to use your money and please don't specify where you're money is for."

You have to wonder how much cash was sent in for the tsunami relief if our small congregation sent in over £3000. You also have to wonder, given the timeline involved, where the money actually ended up being spent. Lawsuits?