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  JW's, eBay, Stupidity and dishonesty

  by RR in

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  i do a lot of ebaying.. last week i sold a spanish edition of "hymns of millennial dawn".

  it was not an original, in fact i don't believe "hymns of millennial dawn" was ever published by the societyt in spanish.

  anyways, the auction title said "hymn of millennial dawn -spanish ed.

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  I'm with oompah....!
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  WHY ALL THE QUESTIONS ?

  by iknowall558 in

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  " acts 22 : 16. what are you waiting for.........?

  the ethiopian eunuch had this attitude when peter preached jesus to him.

  he immediately requested and received baptism.

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  They only started doing questions in 1967 and then it was in a large group with one brother from the "Your Word is a Lamp to my Foot" book released in 1967. There were only 80 questions then. The congregation servant handled it and we did not have to answer every question individually.

  Before this people just showed up at the baptism with towel and suit in hand. No screening through the congregation.

  Now it's infinitely more cultish.
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  Congregation "Bible Study" Comments - Week Commencing 3 August 2009

  by LUKEWARM in

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  *** lv chap.

  8 pp.

  86-96 god loves clean people ***.

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  Good summary.

  This ties in with my father telling my son that "Jehovah wants us to be smart" when my son confessed to wearing jeans to church. What a cult.
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  Hello id like to intruduce myself

  by Belly in

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  2. friends

  ive been lurking this site for quite a while but for some reason never could muster up the courage to post.. let me give a little background on my self.. i am 18 and male an still living with my parents.

  i was baptised at 15 basically against my will (by cracking under the pressure) but only truly broke out of the drone like mindswhen i was 17. since then its been totall choas in my life all of it stemming from the orginization of course.

  my parents are the defenition of brainwashed wittnesses, my father even belives he is anointed.. after i got baptised i suffered from intense deppression and with a little soul searching, after a year i realized that i need some time for my self.

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  Hi Belly, thanks for posting. Hopefully you can talk some of your concerns and worries out here.
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  WHY ALL THE QUESTIONS ?

  by iknowall558 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  " acts 22 : 16. what are you waiting for.........?

  the ethiopian eunuch had this attitude when peter preached jesus to him.

  he immediately requested and received baptism.

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  Yep, it's a good point. Once again they show how far removed from the 1st C Christians they really are and how much they add to God' word. The sole purpose? To elevate their organisation.
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  WT Society Makes JW's Feel Bad about Themselves - No Self Worth

  by flipper in

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  2. friends

  i have noticed this a lot in attitudes of witness relatives i've talked with over the last few years , as well as other former witness friends i have talked to.

  many witnesses feel bad about themselves due to having it drilled into them that we are all " sinners " who allegedly inherited " sin and imperfection " from adam and eve .

  that essentially humans are " born dead " or in a " dying " condition due to alleged " inherited sin " .

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  @ SD;

  But it's all part of the plan--humans are helpless --> we therefore need God's Kingdom --> hey! It's already been here since 1914 --> The GB is the only one who figured that out --> so put all hope in whatever they say and forget any thoughts, feelings, or talents you might've had otherwise. It's a simple machine, and it works pretty ham well, if you ask me. We paste smiles on our faces, but every one of us is worn out and beaten down--we just don't realize who's holding the stick. All we can see is the carrot.

  Great paragraph. Loving the "hey!" moment, just about sums it all up.
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  The story of SD-7

  by sd-7 in

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  2. friends

  who i am is inconsequential.

  it's safe to say, however, that i am between a rock and a hard place.

  or perhaps...a watchtower and a hard place, more accurately.. i was raised a jw--mom got baptized same day i turned 4 (in 1986), alleged that 'satan got to' me because i wanted to do fun stuff on my birthday rather than go to the convention to see her get baptized.

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  Hi, welcome! Great introductory post; you've got a good way with words, please keep it up.
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  My life ... and how JWD came to be - Part 2

  by Simon in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  previous: my life ... and how jwd came to be - part 1. .

  how many times have people said ?if i knew then what i know now??

  what a difference that would have made to my life.

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  Excellent stuff, where's part 3 tho!!?
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  The dangers of religious belief - Praying man let his daughter die

  by Simon in

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  2. friends

  praying man let his daughter diedale neumann faces up to 25 years in prisona us jury has found a man guilty of killing his sick 11-year-old daughter by praying for her recovery rather than seeking medical care.. the man, dale neumann, told a court in the state of wisconsin he believed god could heal his daughter.. she died of a treatable disease - undiagnosed diabetes - at home in rural wisconsin in march last year, as people surrounded her and prayed.. neumann's wife, leilani neumann, was convicted earlier this year.. the couple, who were both convicted of second-degree reckless homicide, face up to 25 years in prison when they are sentenced in october.. a lawyer representing dale neumann said he would appeal.. 'faith healing'.

  during the trial, medical experts told the court that neumann's daughter could have survived if she had received treatment, including insulin and fluids, before she stopped breathing.. on thursday neumann, who is 47 and studied in the past to be a pentecostal minister, said he thought god would heal his daughter.. "if i go to the doctor, i am putting the doctor before god," he said.

  "i am not believing what he said he would do.".

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  Very sad case and the photo of the guy standing with a grin shows up the sort of person we're dealing with. However, I think the title of this thread is deliberately skewed; it wasn't so much religious belief that led to the girl's death but blatant stupidity. And before people jump in with "they're both the same", of course they aren't. How many millions of religious parents - even those who believe in supernatural healing - don't sit praying while their child dies withouth proper medical care?

  As Blues Brother says;

  Poor decisions can affect us all and need have nothing to do with religion. BTW If the parents get 25 years then it would seem that laws are already in place.
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  Walk Away Quietly, Go Out with a Bang, Protest, Disappear- What's Best?

  by OnTheWayOut in

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  2. friends

  there are many different things that each of us deal with, but the biggest reasons most come here is for support in their own lives and in dealing with the jw's in their lives.

  so many are lurking or new here, so maybe they need to hear why some of you chose the path you chose.. for each of us, the decisions on how to leave the wt are our own.

  i fast-faded and don't look over my shoulder worrying about the elders trying to trap me because my wife doesn't spy for them.

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  For me, because I still love all my old friends, I was also scared that I would be tempted to go back and live a lie because of my strong feelings. (I am a bit emotional that way)

  I vividly remember feeling like this. As an elder I was aware of those of whom I'd tried to help in the congregation. I'd been pivotal in getting one guy 'activated' again and he let it be known through my family that he was devastated that I'd stopped attending meetings. I remember lying in bed one night faced with the nightmarish thought of actually having to go back and live a lie just so that I didn't hurt people.

  But eventually it was time to move on. Thankfully my wife left a couple of weeks after me. She was the one who wanted to go on an Alpha Course and who suggested we try church.

  Once we'd gone done that route (about 1.5 months after leaving), it was easier to DA.

  My wife wrote a letter, I refused to do so. I was DAd through my actions (exercising my basic human right to change my religion).

  I'm glad we're completely out. We get shunned. We got royally shunned at a family wedding recently. My parents were mostly still reasonably personable towards us, but since returning from the District Convention they've gone all hardcore and have been highly disrespectful in their treatment of us, to the point of trying to claim some sort of right to tell our oldest son what is and isn't acceptable to Jehovah (that got them on a "3 strikes and no more unsupervised access to our kids" rule).

  I choosing to stay in so that people who don't love you enough to accept you as you are will still talk to you is a painful choice to make in the long run.