at this point Matt wasn't attending..
...well.....
this the second half of the judicial committee meeting with the elders in which the decision is taken to "disfellowship" me.
the reasons are given at the end of the meeting.
here is the link to the audio podcast 10. here is the link to the webpage which you can leave comments on if you wish death or obedience.
at this point Matt wasn't attending..
...well.....
some excerpts:"treated like a nobody".
"when officially sanctioned (disfellowsipped by wbts) discrimination can lead to such evils as ethnic cleansing(kicked out of the congregation).. "bigotry and intolerance (don't talk or help a disfellowshipped person, fired him from an elders construction company) where there are laws against discrimination".. the right education can (on this forum) expose the root cause of prejdice (disfellowshipping) and help us deal wisely with prejudice when we are victims".. 'prejudice may be sown by those( you can add those here) who deliberately promote warped views of other cultures (religion such as the roman catholic church)".. we should choose our associates wisely(if we associate with workmates or other religions we will be discriminated>disfellowshipped<).. don't get me started on p22 clergy-laity.. by the way i just read "blues brother wt 15/10/09-re d/f'd friends.now i am really pissed-off.. bob.
So it is down to all of us to expose them as the charlatans they are, at every opportunity.
What Wobble said.
Btw, does anyone have a scan?
this is the brother of rahm emanuel not liking the spotlight being pointed at him.......we are in trouble folks.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ho-0shfeggo.
Nope, you'd rather get advice from an archaic book which is at best a piece of shit.
At the end of the day, scientists rely on funding and they are usually funded by people with a vested interest in the outcome of their research. Follow the money.
A university education? Is that all it takes to impress you and put your balls on the line? As I've said before, good luck to you.
this is the brother of rahm emanuel not liking the spotlight being pointed at him.......we are in trouble folks.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ho-0shfeggo.
Plenty of eugenics in the bible. Just look at the flood & the early Isralite's exploits after the exodus.
But we're talking about scientists; considering you view the Bible to be a bunch of fairy stories, it's probably best to keep the the facts. Also, does these stories in the Bible negate or perhaps even validate what the scientists are doing?
hobo ken and i were chatting about this yesterday.. the wts has past experience of losing vast numbers of members very quickly.
from their post-25 and post-75 experiences they will know how best to prepare their organisational structure to remain afloat when they experience another exodus.. we're only 5 years from the 100 year anniversary of ct russell walking into the dining room and announcing the gentile times had ended.
since then, millions of people have molded and adjusted their lives and personal expectations based on the date 1914. the wts must know that 2015 is going to bring with it one or two upset jws.... so, is the wts preparing for a mass exodus right now?.
Southcentral makes a depressingly good point.
the great philospher wittgenstein said:.
"humor is not a mood but a way of looking at the world.
so if it is correct to say that humor was stamped out in nazi germany, that does not mean that people were not in good spirits, or anything of that sort, but something much deeper and more important".
I was talking to an ex-Mormon last night and told me this joke;
"What's the difference between a JW and a shopping trolley? A shopping trolley has a mind of its own."
He claims a JW told him that joke.....
hobo ken and i were chatting about this yesterday.. the wts has past experience of losing vast numbers of members very quickly.
from their post-25 and post-75 experiences they will know how best to prepare their organisational structure to remain afloat when they experience another exodus.. we're only 5 years from the 100 year anniversary of ct russell walking into the dining room and announcing the gentile times had ended.
since then, millions of people have molded and adjusted their lives and personal expectations based on the date 1914. the wts must know that 2015 is going to bring with it one or two upset jws.... so, is the wts preparing for a mass exodus right now?.
Remember, tho, that they've ready started to point - not to 1919 - to their printing presses, global expansion, CO arrangement etc etc as proof of divine appointment. Crazy but true.
i'm listening to part two of hobo ken's first judicial committee meeting.
the part of the proceedings i'm at is where the 3 elders on the committee are interrogating hobo about his fellowship with my wife and me (we had started attending a church, this had become known to our respective families, so to save them having to testify against us we dad).
one elder in particular has a thorn up his backside (and he knows who he his) because hobo, iknowall and their kids went on holiday with us pre-hobo's disfellowshipping.
Chalam, if the governments are placed by God in their positions in order to offer protection and civil order, then surely it can't be classed as revenge to utilize the policies and laws to afford the religious freedom of people trapped in a cult?
What the WTS does is bully people. No one likes to see bullying. Didn't Jesus directly confront the leaders of a bullying religion?
Re. writing to the UN, we're going to do it.
Re. a pro bono lawyers, we'll be looking into it. Glasgow has lots of human rights lawyers due to all of the political asylum seekers...y'know, people who've had to flee their country for reasons such as changing their religion.
Re. 1st amendment; we live in the UK.
just saw the thread from otwo talking about the call he got from an elder who wanted to meet up.
it go me thinking about my own situation.
me and my wife have been gone for a while.
I'm pretty sure they won't bother with you if you're DAd. If you were DFd and are known to still be practicing the same sin, they may not bother with you. But I think a lot will depend on current "truth" contained in policy letters given to the elders or on how much of a focus the CO puts on it when he visits.
i'm listening to part two of hobo ken's first judicial committee meeting.
the part of the proceedings i'm at is where the 3 elders on the committee are interrogating hobo about his fellowship with my wife and me (we had started attending a church, this had become known to our respective families, so to save them having to testify against us we dad).
one elder in particular has a thorn up his backside (and he knows who he his) because hobo, iknowall and their kids went on holiday with us pre-hobo's disfellowshipping.
People need to be led to the yoke...If they are kept from the yoke due to fear, what can a Christian do to get rid of the fear?