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PROVE that Jehovah's Witnesses have the "Truth".
by undercover inminimus started a thread asking people to prove that jws don't have the truth.... but, instead of proving they don't, i'd like to see someone prove that the witnesses do have the truth.. this is your thread jw apologists....convince me why you have the truth.. to all you apostates and nay-sayers, please allow the apologists to have their say without harrassing them.
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What is the JW theology?
by Doug Mason inby "theology" i mean "the study of god (gk.
: theos).. jws keep rabbiting on ad nauseum about the trinity teaching being "irrational", "impossible to understand", etc.. i do not want this thread to be about the trinitarian doctrine.. i want to be given an explanation of what a jw believes.
i have seen so many arrows and spears thrown by jws, i want to know exactly what they are defending.. i want to see an explanation of "god" that is rational and can be understood.. doug.
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@ Spike;
This is a question for individual, personal research using WT publications. You can do it yourself, Doug. This is how you make the Truth of the Bible your own.
Where does the Holy Spirit come in?
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Ordained Ministers of J.W. part 1
by bobld inbaptisms are usually performed at assemblies.at the conclusion of the baptism talk,the baptism candidates are asked two q.affirmative answers qualifies the candidates as ordained ministers of j.w..we all have seen some candidates as young as 13 years,some as young as 12 years and even some as young as 9 years old.now in the eyes of the wbts these are qualified ordained ministers.. to my way of thinking these ordained ministers should be qualified to give sound advise or council.example,a 17 year old teenage boy has a problem with masturbation and is seeking advise.do you think he would receive sound advise on his masturbation problem from a 9 year old ordained minister of j.w.
(girl).in other religions this ordained minister would be qualified but i don't think a j.w.
is.. bob.
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The topic of the thread is Jehovah's Witnesses becoming Ordained Ministers at baptism. The topic is not infant baptism.
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PROVE that Jehovah's Witnesses have the "Truth".
by undercover inminimus started a thread asking people to prove that jws don't have the truth.... but, instead of proving they don't, i'd like to see someone prove that the witnesses do have the truth.. this is your thread jw apologists....convince me why you have the truth.. to all you apostates and nay-sayers, please allow the apologists to have their say without harrassing them.
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Why has this thread been allowed to turn into a debate about the Trinity?
The topic is "PROVE that Jehovah's Witnesses have the "Truth"".
Jesus said "I am the Way, the Truth and the Life." Jesus said "Jesus said to them, “I tell you the truth, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you have no life in you. 54 Whoever eats my flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life, and I will raise him up at the last day. 55 For my flesh is real food and my blood is real drink. 56 Whoever eats my flesh and drinks my blood remains in me, and I in him."
So, the challenge is to prove that JWs have the truth. According to the Truth's own words, to have him you need to eat his flesh and drink his blood.
Do Jehovah's Witnesses do this?
Perhaps around 10,000 of their 7 million members do. The rest are strongly discouraged to do this.
So, using that very simple benchmark, do Jehovah's Witnesses have the Truth?
No.
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Girl Flees for her life after becoming Christian
by AK - Jeff inhttp://abcnews.go.com/video/playerindex?id=8317410.
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ABC New story of a 17 year old Muslim girl who secretly became a Christian and whose family wants her to return to the family home. Her family discovered this through her postings on Facebook. Her father has threatened to kill her. He, however, has denied this in court.
(If she's 17, isn't she old enough to leave the family home?)
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PROVE that Jehovah's Witnesses have the "Truth".
by undercover inminimus started a thread asking people to prove that jws don't have the truth.... but, instead of proving they don't, i'd like to see someone prove that the witnesses do have the truth.. this is your thread jw apologists....convince me why you have the truth.. to all you apostates and nay-sayers, please allow the apologists to have their say without harrassing them.
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They don't go to war.
They have love among themselves.
They're fulfilling Matthew 24:14.
They wear suits.
They alone are using the name Jehovah.
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Selection of the JWs in 1918/1919 - how might a JW attempt to show from the Bible
by insearchoftruth ini had asked my wife, who is in the study phase with a jw sister about the selection of the jws by jc in 1918/1919 time frame and she had actually never heard of that.. the husband of this woman she is studying with has been chomping at the bit to talk to me...well my wife said she will ask him to come show me, using only the bible, how this selection was made...of course she did not clear this request with the dubman before telling me she would do this.. i am guessing he will be there when i get home from work tomorrow, she is also torturing our son with a bs now (her son from a previous marriage).. what sort of reach do you think he will try to make to show this...i am guessing he will try to show 1914 from the daniel/revelation stuff, if he does this i am going to ask him to show 607bce from a non jw source....since i believe it is 586/587 bce as a starting date......i hope to keep him on the 1918/1919 topic, and have some examples of their beliefs from that era to talk about as well.
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That would be quite some correction to make, to suddenly say, "woah, turns out we were actually wrong about 1919 after all."
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Selection of the JWs in 1918/1919 - how might a JW attempt to show from the Bible
by insearchoftruth ini had asked my wife, who is in the study phase with a jw sister about the selection of the jws by jc in 1918/1919 time frame and she had actually never heard of that.. the husband of this woman she is studying with has been chomping at the bit to talk to me...well my wife said she will ask him to come show me, using only the bible, how this selection was made...of course she did not clear this request with the dubman before telling me she would do this.. i am guessing he will be there when i get home from work tomorrow, she is also torturing our son with a bs now (her son from a previous marriage).. what sort of reach do you think he will try to make to show this...i am guessing he will try to show 1914 from the daniel/revelation stuff, if he does this i am going to ask him to show 607bce from a non jw source....since i believe it is 586/587 bce as a starting date......i hope to keep him on the 1918/1919 topic, and have some examples of their beliefs from that era to talk about as well.
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But we're not talking with Catholics, we're talking with Jehovah's Witnesses who are controlled by a publishing corporation who happen to claim to be God's spokespeople on earth. Surely asking for proof of such a claim isn't a bad thing? Unless they're a cult...
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My life ... and how JWD came to be - Part 5
by Simon inmy life ... and how jwd came to be - part 1. my life ... and how jwd came to be - part 2. my life ... and how jwd came to be - part 3. my life ... and how jwd came to be - part 4. i swear, i thought it was only a couple of years at most since i wrote part 4 of "my life and how jwd came to be".
i re-read it after someone posted to it and brought it back on active topics and it was kind of prophetic in a way ... well, i had the 5 years part right if nothing else:.
it would be nice to visit the site (or whatever one is around then) in 5 years time to let people know how we're doing and find only a few of the same people still around.
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Thanks for sharing this. You and I share the opinion that our families, our parents in particular, are happy to choose a publishing corporation over the children they produced. Tragic, really.
Great story, we're jealous of you being able to move so far away from the UK. I've always fancied Canada since reading "Girlfriend in a Coma".
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Bill Cetnar tells a lie ....
by Raphael innot the way to refute watchtower theology:.
bill and joan cetnar make a statement that russell said he spoke to angels , this is a blatant lie and we know what the bible says about liars .... he also says that russell claimed to be the fds and the laodicean messenger, both statements are misleading .
russell never claimed in any of his writings that he spoke to angels or was the aforementioned messenger or the fds , rather it was some of his associates that suggested he may be.. the cetnars also make a number of other poorly researched and misleading statements that sadly bring their own characters into disrepute .. .
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I'm with LWT and Ninja.