She actually quoted Matt 7:13-15?
Did she even read v15?
Watch out for false prophets. They come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ferocious wolves.
she responded to a message i sent her, actually asking for me to tell her why she was wrong in assuming i 'had left jehovah'.. i have never had a close relationship with this person, i have nothing to loose.
i don't really care what she thinks, although i would love to see her treat my comments in a fair way - for her own sake.
but i doubt it - been there, done that!.
She actually quoted Matt 7:13-15?
Did she even read v15?
Watch out for false prophets. They come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ferocious wolves.
Has anyone actually tried fasting and prayer? Just curious.
i hope this will be as respectful a debate as possible.
here is the premise: many of us (most) seem to be ex jw's on this board.
that means, whatever your motivation, for a time you bought into the theology of jw to one degree or another.
Francis Collins has some interesting observations on agnosticism perhaps being the ultimate cop out*. He was agnostic, then atheist, then believer. Interesting journey.
He's quoted in this excellent book too. Written by another scientist**.
I think it's often a simple case of life's baggage determine how we view the idea of faith and God. And as an exJW, I fully recognise that the Governing Body have ladened us with more than our personal allowance.
*Quote: "In response, Collins clarified his position on agnosticism so as not to include "earnest agnostics who have considered the evidence and still don't find an answer. I was reacting to the agnosticism I see in the scientific community, which has not been arrived at by a careful examination of the evidence."
**Not sure if those of a scientific background on this forum would consider him a real scientist as I'm not clear on the predicating conditions with which one science is considered more or less legitimate than another.
And they don't have the word 'grace' in their Bible.
And they don't believe in the rapture.
Jehovah's Witnesses do not believe in fasting or in the redemptive power of Christ's sacrifice.
i hope this will be as respectful a debate as possible.
here is the premise: many of us (most) seem to be ex jw's on this board.
that means, whatever your motivation, for a time you bought into the theology of jw to one degree or another.
I don't really understand the self-perpetuating cycle of pulling out quotes from this sceptic or that believer to vilifiy or justify faith.
It shoud always be down to an individual's personal experience. I am a person of faith, but I didn't reach that place due to reading what so-called experts have to say on the matter. But then, maybe that requires faith in the first place...
I was talking to a physicist on Friday evening about the idea of faith. He said that, as a scientist, faith is essential to him; his work in the lab is more often than not faith-based. Think it through.
The question in the OP is "Is Faith Dangerous?" The answer, IMO, is "of course not". If it is, then it should be applied across the board which means that scientists around the world better get the hell out of the lab.
Faith within scientists has led to them changing the world.
Faith within Christians has led to them changing the world.
well, my wife and i returned to the jw elders house for another bible study continuing the series in marriage.
that study went pretty well, poking fun at each other concerning our marital issues and all.
nothing in that particular study would seem to be bad or anything for after all, one cannot argue against the virtues of being faithful to your spouse and the marriage arrangement (at least for christians that is).
Another great thread, Gary.
is this girl really a jw, and what will happen to her in her congregation after this.............. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=baeepruo1go.
I'll guarantee you that if it had been anyone but a jw, no one here would have even commented or cared.
What sort of guarantee?
from beginning to end, how long did it take you, when you first started your personal questioning and re-evaluating the watchtower organization and concluding that the wts was definitely not true?
my sister is asking this.
some of us (who left a couple decades ago - pre-internet) are saying it took about 10 years on average.
3 months.