After the Barbara Walters special last week I thought to myself, I should totally write to Oprah about the shunning policies and how corrupt the WBTS is, trying to expose them that way, I'm sure it would impact incredibly!!!
lostsheep82
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Latest Special Talk in Australia
by jwfacts inno, i don't mean the visit by oprah.. there was a special talk on sunday relayed to all the aussie congs from sydney.
apparently the speaker had an american accent, but was stationed in a latin american country.
he was really pushing field service and pulled out the old one that: if you do not witness you are not one of jehovah's witnesses.
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Jehovahs Witness evaded prison for 25 years due to JW coverup finally jailed
by James_Slash inyou are herenews>localrapist evaded justice for years.
published on tue dec 07 08:12:05 gmt 2010. a rapist evaded justice for 25 years because jehovahs witnesses did nothing when told about his child sex abuse, a court heard.. anthony burns, aged 54, was confronted with his crimes against a young child in the 1980s but no action was taken by the religious organisation.. burns repeatedly abused a girl as young as nine years old, from 1977 until 1984 when she revealed what had been happening.. burns, of back road, wisbech, in cambridgeshire, denied four charges of indecent assault, attempted rape and rape but was convicted after a trial.
the abuse took place in the 1970s and early 1980s in eastbourne and northamptonshire.
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lostsheep82
'............what are you talking about, he looks like a perfectly fine spiritual elder!!! That young sister certainly must have been lying about this instance cause he was an outstanding member of the congregation...............'
GAG ME! That is so fucked up! How can anyone dismiss abuse charges? Most of the elders involved in any situation have children and I don't understand how they can dismiss charges constantly! Damn religious rules, wonder what Jehovah thinks when stuff like this happens....DISCUSTING! Pedophiles are the lowest people!
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High Profile Case: Seeking Reinstatement
by headisspinning inbut our situation is very difficult and quite high profile.... i was raised as a jw and my mother was very strict and abusive.
i got baptized at age 14.. my mother actually called on my (present) husband's mom in service.
she was on the initial call resulting in his mom coming in the truth and him being raised in it from about age 8 or 9.. despite a very abusive step-father, he followed his mom's lead and came into the truth.
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lostsheep82
Welcome and Good-Bye at the same time:)
You are still looking at this thread, I know it:) You said:
"But I am very turned off by what goes on here and after reading about the rise of the 'concious class' I want nothing to do with this site."
"This site is addictive but after exploring what it has to offer over the past day or so, I just have a very negative impression. It's like a car accident - you're horrified but somehow it's hard to tear your eyes away..."
This is common. When I first decided to go to as JW's say an 'apostate' site, I was scared. Lurked on here for a looong while, and was discusted also at many comments and the anger that people had and have towards the organization. I thought "these people were never really spiritually strong so their thoughts don't count". Then I read and lurked some more. I was looking to actually find help to PROVE it was the 'truth'. I was digging on the history of the religion and found this site. I admit, that some posters have very unuseful information. BUT there are so many of us who were like you. Born and raised, lived, ate, breathed the 'truth'.
Right now you are sad because you are not accepted back, this is a very tough time for you! I was almost reinstated in the cong I was attending, and then had to suddenly move back home due to financial difficulty. My home congregation made me wait ANOTHER YEAR!!!! Another full year, just to set an example in the congregation even though I returned to the organization in another congregation. It was a very trying time to say the least. I felt-why can't Jehovah see all my efforts, why do I have to prove myself to the congregation?
All I'm saying, is that we all have similar stories. It was my attempt and burning desire to PROVE it WAS the truth, that made me start going WHAT THE HECK? The things that your average JW don't know, or are blinded by astounded me. My heart literally broke in two when I read about the things that go on in the organization. The history of the religion, the fact that 1914 was based on Pyramidology. I denied what I found as just 'apostate' and 'satan trying to lure me in'. But what I found was beyond belief. I prayed and cried to Jehovah, asking WHY , Why isn't this the truth?
I know your issue is not with doctrine and you didn't come to this site to be preached to about doctrine and how faulty the organization is...so that isn't what I will push. Although I will encourage you to still view this car crash, because I truly with an honest heart, feel you need to examine WHY it is the truth, WHY you want to come back to what you think is Jehovah's organization. I know it's a natural thing for a lot who get DF'd, to just come right on back, but please for your own sanity, look into-just a little bit-the background of the religion. Where it started. There are some current elders on this site, former elders, former bethalites on this site, and they are genuine and helpful.
In the reasoning book we use to always point out the point where it says for others to 'examine their religion' and yet JW's are not allowed. Right there, should tell you something:)
I truly wish you all the best in the future, and please send our love to your husband, as he seems to be going through a lot. Take care, and my prayers will be with you tonight!LostSheep82
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Lady Lee- who are you, and what's YOUR story?
by theMadJW insince they have fingered you as a mod, you should have a very interesting tale to tell; please do!.
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lostsheep82
i just came accross this thread. Is MadJW's profile DR. HOUSE just to give him an excuse to be a complete asshole? Give your head a shake you arrogant prick. I read through 2 pages of this thread and had nothing more than anger for your stupid and senceless posts. Leave people alone here! FUCK OFF!
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ex-elders, present elders, and sexual abuse survivors or their families
by Lady Lee inhelp needed on this thread.
lady lee- who are you, and what's your story?.
madjw thinks the wts' policy is sufficient to deal wtih cases of sexual abuse of children.
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lostsheep82
THIS LOOSER SAYS:
Post 126 of 129
Since 8/17/2010WW, it's one thing to say the policy does not harm children, but how exactly is it good?
It protects children, "an inheritance from Jehovah".
However, you continue to show our community gross disrespect.
Because I want to tell the truth?
saying this to a lady is not cool! Especially, when you dig up their past to try and discredit them
You do the same all the time with Rutherford and Russell.
while you defend a religion like the JW's and their messed up pedophile policy
And I will continue to defend it. You defend lies, and it is also not kewl. Give me EVIDENCES which show that the policy of the WT abuse children.
You should be ashamed of yourself!
Jehovah should also be ashamed because he said the words from Ezekiel 16:33, 34 to person who deserves it.
YOU MAKE ME SICK TO MY STOMACH. HOW DARE YOU EVER SAY THAT THE WT POLICY DOESN'T ALLOW ABUSE? Children or no children, it specifically states that unless you have two witnesses your abuse didnt or doesn't exist. Since my abuser was allowed to still run sound and do mikes after i repeatedley went to meetings bruised, tell me this is jah's organization? TWO WITNESSES is why that fucker wouldnt get punished.
YOU SHOULD BE ASHAMED OF YOURSELF YOU ARROGANT ASSHOLE!
PS-SORRY SIMON:(
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Anyone from Alberta Canada?
by lostsheep82 inanyone from northern alberta canada?
edmonton or the vacinity?.
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lostsheep82
well since we're kinda all over, is Calgary somewhat central? I mean, it's a 6 hr drive for me, and roughly 4-9 hours for anyone in BC, AB and nearish SK lol.
there's nothing saying we can't make this a yearly or semi-yearly thing, but we gots to get a start somewhere lol
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Anyone from Alberta Canada?
by lostsheep82 inanyone from northern alberta canada?
edmonton or the vacinity?.
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Well, Simon, I think we've spoken before, back two years ago when I realized everything lol. We should totally set up a meet-up of some sorty, it doesn't have to be super big but we could do something for those who want to come. A dinner even, I don't care, but something that's planned:)
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Anyone from Alberta Canada?
by lostsheep82 inanyone from northern alberta canada?
edmonton or the vacinity?.
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Calgary is beautiful! Was just down there early Nov for a course from work. I LOVE Calgary:) I guess I'm just looking maybe to meet some ones on here. I live just East of Edmonton. To put a face, and actually talk and have a beer with some of you would just be so cool, and very much a breath of fresh air IMO. I guess you always go back to your roots and well...my roots are the JW, to meet other JW's that were elders or 'spiritually strong' it would be so cool.
I dunno...lol maybe I'm just lame haha
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Anyone from Alberta Canada?
by lostsheep82 inanyone from northern alberta canada?
edmonton or the vacinity?.
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Anyone from northern Alberta Canada? Edmonton or the vacinity?
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Did this talk ever happen?
by bottleofwater ini heard that in a certain congregation an elder was giving a talk about profanity and the need to avoid it.. he started then counting on his fingers different obscenities and saying them out loud.. those in the audience were shocked.
he was taken off the stage and had his elder book taken from him.. .
did anyone ever hear of this happening?
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lostsheep82
what elder would dare say swears on the platform? He must have had doubts about the organization and that was his way of getting out lol
