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  GIVE ME YOUR INFORMED OPINION........

  by Terry in

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  as you well know, the chief difference between the left (democrats/liberals) and the right (republicans/conservatives) comes down to one thing.. the size of government and the role of government.. with that in mind i ask for your informed opinion.. 1.what does government do that isn't wasteful, inept and costly that the private sector can't do better?.

  2.why do people disagree on the role of government when there are thousands of examples of where government fails to provide?.

  3.do you think government automatically becomes efficient, orderly and manageable when your preferred party takes office?.

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  hillary_step

  Terry,

  Interesting questions. Lemeesee....

  1.What does Government do that isn't wasteful, inept and costly that the private sector can't do better.

  Very little, though I am not sure that your question attends to the moral issues involved in such 'governing'. I think that it is the way that the private sector 'governs' that is in question. The US medical system is one such example. If the private sector respects the individual and affirms equality, or at the very least respect for the individual, then I doubt that many care about who provides what. What you seem to be missing on both fronts Terry is the dismal failure of human nature, which is innerrantly self-absorbed, to provide stability for society - its only means of progressive growth. It must be remembered that the desire for a government that controls the private sector has been borne from historical abuses over centuries shown by those who control the Private sector.

  2.Why do people disagree on the role of government when there are thousands of examples of where Government fails to provide?

  Again, my own feeling is that the present agendas and past history of the private sector is one that might make a large part of the community nervous about giving it too much power. The UK has the MCC which designed to allow Government to intervene in granting any one set of companies too much power for this very reason. I think it a good idea given the historical inability for Capital to curb the appetites that might put too much power in one place (a l halliburton) , subsequently unhinging a sector of society.

  3.Do you think Government automatically becomes efficient, orderly and manageable when YOUR PREFERRED PARTY takes office?

  Of course not, though imo there are worst things than an inept government, and that is Private Enterprise without a moral compass. One can be voted out and the pieces picked up, the other changes the planet irreversibly.

  HS
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  ...and the JWD beat goes on...

  by hillary_step in

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  burn the ships: osama bin laden has long blonde hair and a tattoo of jesus on the left orb of his arse.. hs : no he has not...got long blonde hair i mean.. burn the ships: you admire osama so why should we believe you?

  in fact as you admire osama why should we believe that god does not exist or that the republican party is not a gigantic cuban string vest?.

  hs: where have i said i admired osama burn?.

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  Burn The Ships: Osama Bin Laden has long blonde hair and a tattoo of Jesus on the left orb of his arse.
  HS : No he has not...got long blonde hair I mean.
  Burn The Ships: You admire Osama so why should we believe you? In fact as you admire Osama why should we believe that God does not exist or that the Republican party is not a gigantic Cuban string vest?
  HS: Where have I said I admired Osama Burn?
  BTS: Well, okay, admire is a strong word. What I really meant was in sort of admirishly admiriazing sort of way you like his sandals if only to sell them on eBay. I surmised this from the post where you stated, 'Osama Bin Laden has been mis-sandalled.'
  Journey On: Yes, I remember reading some of the turds HS has written in the past where he distinctly said that he admired Osama, so he must have long blonde hair....Hillary I mean....ermmm am I losing the plot again? Never mind, as long as I am disageeeing with HS I know that God exists.
  HS: Journey...wrong again on all counts!
  Minimus: Have you ever been wrong on all counts?
  Journey On: I am sure that I remember some turd or the other that you wrote in the past to this effect.
  HS: No you do not, as I did not write this, but speaking of turds, why are you looking so flushed.
  Journey On: Waaahhahhah! HS was mean and rude to me....Wahahahah! I need a cuddle.
  Flipper: You called!
  Burn The Ships: I am Wikipedia, Lord of Links - bomb Cuba with URL's.
  5Go: Guess what I am going to be writing about next Tuesday morning at 10.05am?
  Burn The Ships: Bow before me 5Go, for I am Half-Baked, which means that half of me may not be baked but the other half, the more important half is well baked.
  RCrusoe: Who says that I am impotent...oh sorry ..important?
  Flipper: Come on folks. What is your favorite 'What is your favorite' thread?
  Jcanon: In 539BC while the moon was waning over the Portable Molech Baby Burning Dumpster, the the reverse anti-typical Oliver Cromwell wrote on a clay prism, 'Trust in God but keep your wig dry'. The allusion to the word 'wig' makes it quite plain that I am the Messiah and that Oliver Cromwell's warts were the 'mark' on the forehead spoekn of by my still living cousin, Daniel of Birkenhead.
  FunkyDerek: When did you last see Obve's doctor?
  JCanon" Doctor? Did not the Lord provide his servants with all the medication they needed......My cat has been brainwashed and is trying to sing. I may not be around much longer...
  Hooberus: Why do you rabid, ignorant, deceitful, arrogant, lying athiests always descend to using insults against God's only true people?
  Real One: Uhhh? Only a tool says to his cart, there is no dog....Uhhhh?
  RCrusoe: I am not saying that I am desperate for female flesh, but what exactly does Osama look like in a blonde wig?
  Nicolau: If the world is not athiest by this night Friday, 11.00pm, GMT, I am going to start a war between athiests and religionists with agnostics doing the non-combatant medical duties.

  Fire at will.....
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  President Obama and a Democrat Congress Will....

  by owenfieldreams in

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  1) raise taxes, and not just capital gains.

  income taxes will be raised as well.

  and if you make more than $200k/yr, you are "rich", and defined as such you will get soaked; thus, you will have little incentive to keep earning what you do now,--the opportunity to make a nice profit will simply not be there....and all of us working stiffs fortunate enough to make over $50 k/ yr, you better hold on to your wallets as well... we are going to pay for the social security bailout.

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  Burn,

  That American Socialism supported the Civil Rights movement is just proof that even a broken clock is right twice a day.

  That is one dumbass statement.

  Read your history Burn. American Socialism was in many ways responsible for the Civil Rights movement. That is the point that I have been making, but of course you barely bother assimilating the information in other posts before you are ready, 'enter' button at the ready. You remind me of that soldier in 'All Quiet On The Western Front', who is so intent on joining the battle that he runs to the front line while his leaves his rifle behind at the canteen.

  Burn, you do not do your own brain any justice.

  HS
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  President Obama and a Democrat Congress Will....

  by owenfieldreams in

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  1) raise taxes, and not just capital gains.

  income taxes will be raised as well.

  and if you make more than $200k/yr, you are "rich", and defined as such you will get soaked; thus, you will have little incentive to keep earning what you do now,--the opportunity to make a nice profit will simply not be there....and all of us working stiffs fortunate enough to make over $50 k/ yr, you better hold on to your wallets as well... we are going to pay for the social security bailout.

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  hillary_step

  Burn,

  Incidentally, that is a pathetic attempt at establishing credibility by dropping an obscure reference.

  Obscure reference. Are you mad?

  The trial of Sacco and vancetti was one of the most important in the first quarter of US history and their execution proved to be a turning point in the history of workers rights. One hundred thousand protestors took to the streets around the US in protest the flagging workers unions were injected with a refreshed zeal.

  Your comment underlies a depressing feeling that I have been getting the past few years that many Americans are terribly ignorant of their own history, which might suggest the reason that many have no clue about their 'today'.

  HS
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  President Obama and a Democrat Congress Will....

  by owenfieldreams in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  1) raise taxes, and not just capital gains.

  income taxes will be raised as well.

  and if you make more than $200k/yr, you are "rich", and defined as such you will get soaked; thus, you will have little incentive to keep earning what you do now,--the opportunity to make a nice profit will simply not be there....and all of us working stiffs fortunate enough to make over $50 k/ yr, you better hold on to your wallets as well... we are going to pay for the social security bailout.

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  hillary_step

  Warlock,

  I see the Apostle is still alive, spewing fire and brimstone.

  I see the Warlock has as ever, very little of substance to add to the thread.

  HS
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  President Obama and a Democrat Congress Will....

  by owenfieldreams in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  1) raise taxes, and not just capital gains.

  income taxes will be raised as well.

  and if you make more than $200k/yr, you are "rich", and defined as such you will get soaked; thus, you will have little incentive to keep earning what you do now,--the opportunity to make a nice profit will simply not be there....and all of us working stiffs fortunate enough to make over $50 k/ yr, you better hold on to your wallets as well... we are going to pay for the social security bailout.

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  hillary_step

  Snowbird,

  I'm pleased about the strides this country has made in the Civil Rights arena, but I'm at the same time a realist.

  I know where Alabama is. You are missing my point. The Civil Rights movement (for all Americans) has its roots in America Socialism from the 1870's onwards, and especially during the 1920's. Remember Sacco and Vanzetti?

  HS
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  President Obama and a Democrat Congress Will....

  by owenfieldreams in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  1) raise taxes, and not just capital gains.

  income taxes will be raised as well.

  and if you make more than $200k/yr, you are "rich", and defined as such you will get soaked; thus, you will have little incentive to keep earning what you do now,--the opportunity to make a nice profit will simply not be there....and all of us working stiffs fortunate enough to make over $50 k/ yr, you better hold on to your wallets as well... we are going to pay for the social security bailout.

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  hillary_step

  Snowbird,

  I like the fact that the US Government has seen fit to implement and administer so many social reforms. What I do not like is the fact that so many of us are expecting the government to take care of us from the cradle to the grave.

  Do you actually know anything at all about modern American history? Look at the roots of where Civil Rights reforms began.

  HS
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  President Obama and a Democrat Congress Will....

  by owenfieldreams in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  1) raise taxes, and not just capital gains.

  income taxes will be raised as well.

  and if you make more than $200k/yr, you are "rich", and defined as such you will get soaked; thus, you will have little incentive to keep earning what you do now,--the opportunity to make a nice profit will simply not be there....and all of us working stiffs fortunate enough to make over $50 k/ yr, you better hold on to your wallets as well... we are going to pay for the social security bailout.

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  hillary_step

  Journey On,

  See? Need I say more.

  You are a pasty-faced hypocrite. I merely used the words that you directed at myself against you and you acknowledged by your reply above that they were meant to be insulting. Let me remind you of your own words:

  But, again...my apologies for failing to wade through the sh*t pile to find the one "t*rd" I was seeking.

  You said this with regard to your claim that I had described myself as a 'socialist' in my past posts.

  Grow up and take responsibility for your words.

  HS
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  President Obama and a Democrat Congress Will....

  by owenfieldreams in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  1) raise taxes, and not just capital gains.

  income taxes will be raised as well.

  and if you make more than $200k/yr, you are "rich", and defined as such you will get soaked; thus, you will have little incentive to keep earning what you do now,--the opportunity to make a nice profit will simply not be there....and all of us working stiffs fortunate enough to make over $50 k/ yr, you better hold on to your wallets as well... we are going to pay for the social security bailout.

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  hillary_step

  Burn,

  My calling you socialist was an observation only and not a value judement.

  What I cannot seem to get through to you is that calling someone a Socialist is not a sin, neither is being a socialist a sin. I do not believe in the club or the mob mentaility, especially the political ones. That is why I am so critical of US politics as whole (read - both Democrat and Republican).

  I merely responded because your description, and that of Journey On is not accurate, that is all. I would expect the same reaction if I called you...lets see....reasoned. ;)

  HS
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  President Obama and a Democrat Congress Will....

  by owenfieldreams in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  1) raise taxes, and not just capital gains.

  income taxes will be raised as well.

  and if you make more than $200k/yr, you are "rich", and defined as such you will get soaked; thus, you will have little incentive to keep earning what you do now,--the opportunity to make a nice profit will simply not be there....and all of us working stiffs fortunate enough to make over $50 k/ yr, you better hold on to your wallets as well... we are going to pay for the social security bailout.

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  hillary_step

  Journey On,

  But, again...my apologies for failing to wade through the sh*t pile to find the one "t*rd" I was seeking.

  You should actually be apologizing for having a brain like a sh*t pile, one which frequently ejects verbal t*rds, but I doubt whether we will witness such an 'apology' from you.

  You were wrong and as usual are having trouble dealing with it. Not my problem mate.

  HS