Journey On,
I've come to realize the striving to find balance is first a personal journey than a community one.
This is a very astute observation.
HS
i disassociated myself from this board a month ago, regrouped, caught up on necessary business, and now i want to come back.
you newbies won't remember the circumstances, but you "oldies but goodies" will.
is it okay if i return.
Journey On,
I've come to realize the striving to find balance is first a personal journey than a community one.
This is a very astute observation.
HS
personally, i think they are ............and from an early age but why?
from personal experience men need to feel loved, wanted and appreciated but have a bypass from romance.
is it just my husband or do you men feel pressured to be "be romantic".
John,
Romance is not dictating what you want and need and having a slave fulfill it. Romance is anticipating what would make the object of your affection feel special and loved--something that they didn't know they needed or wouldn't have known they wanted. Romance is not a scheduled event set to a certain "frequency," romance is being upbuilt when it is unexpected, and knowing the motivations are pure. Romance is the anticipation of opening a gift from an old friend, perpetual, constant, and unending.
So speaks the expert?
With such an enormous understanding of these things, how do you have time to post on this Board. I would have thought that the line of scantily clad women reached right around the corner to the Delhi Curry House.
jc.
can you help me understand these stories?
i want to know why these are in the bible.
Can you help me understand these stories?
Now you have done it!
INCOMING!............
HS
today, the international crime court celebrates its tenth anniversary .
i believe it has the potential to become a powerful tool against worldwide violations of human rights .
here's an introductory article on the court's proceedings and future activities:.
Hamilcarr,
3 months later, it became a binding treaty.
Yes, and late in 2002 the first Assembly was held. The provisional signatures are rather like signing a loan at the bank for a new business. You have your ducks in a line, but no business. Business started with the ICC five years ago.
Cheers - HS
today, the international crime court celebrates its tenth anniversary .
i believe it has the potential to become a powerful tool against worldwide violations of human rights .
here's an introductory article on the court's proceedings and future activities:.
It is a manifestation of that European quality that always seems to appeal to position , rather than product.
lol...So speaks the person who has probably never set foot on European soil.
Tripe.
HS
today, the international crime court celebrates its tenth anniversary .
i believe it has the potential to become a powerful tool against worldwide violations of human rights .
here's an introductory article on the court's proceedings and future activities:.
Burn,
I still fail to see the humor. You judge me by my size? You do not know where I grew up and what I had to do to get through. Some saw a short latino and though it would be easy. Wrong.
lol....You would fail to see the humor, as it is at your own expense. You see, it is not that I see a short Latino, it is because I see a short Latino threatening a Martial Arts expert with physical harm.
That is the humor.
HS
today, the international crime court celebrates its tenth anniversary .
i believe it has the potential to become a powerful tool against worldwide violations of human rights .
here's an introductory article on the court's proceedings and future activities:.
James,
How old is it? The organization "came into being July 1, 2002". It can only prosecute cases occuring upon that date or after. That is (a) - six years and a few days. not, (b). Why this is so hard to admit for H_S is beyond me, unless it a stubborn refusal to correct an honest mis-statement. May be significant since I have been called a mere school-boy on the subject. May also be significant if cases were to appear that were older than 5 years, but within the 6 years + a few days since it was founded.
Shaking head.......
How often do you need to be told. The ICC is NOT TEN YEARS OLD as you noted on the first page of this thread. It was instituted in document in July 2002, ITS FIRST ACTIVE ASSEMBLY was in NOVEMBER 2002, FIVE YEARS AGO.
How many cases has it successfully prosecuted? H_S first posted here, and I quote - "it has successfully prosecuted 12 cases". He has now posted exactly what I found in the wiki article, but again declines to validate the fact that no cases have yet been successfully prosecuted. Correct answer is still (a) - editorializations not withstanding.
The ICC has prosectued TWELVE defendents, most in absentia. TWELVE ARREST WARRANTS WERE ISSUED. FOUR ARRESTS MADE, TWO DEFENDANTS DIED ON THE RUN. FOUR ARE AT LARGE AWAITING ARREST FOR CRIMES THAT THEY HAVE BEEN PRODESUTED FOR. LOOK UP THE TERM PROSECUTE. That is where your mistake lies.
Is it related to the United Nations? Of course it is...H_S seems to confirm this, but continues to insist that it is "a completely different beast". Maybe it is, depending on your semantics, but it has similarities, origins, and relationships with the U.N. This idea does have a context here.: - ICC has yet to build a positive record of it's own (after the six years). Many reasonable persons would naturally compare it with the U.N. as far as getting any traction to actually accomplish it's charter, given that it is supported by a majority of the same members and is an unproven international organization having roots in the U.N. general assembly. Correct answer is (a), H_S demurs to say so but does not deny so. It is significant because the U.N. itself can provide case recommendations, just like a member nation. It is also worth noting that the prosecutor of the failed Congo case of this July got the exculpatory evidence from a U.N. confidential source, thus contributing to a failure of prosecution.
The ICC IS NOT RELATED TO THE UN, in an way shape or form. Its structure, methodology and above all its PURPOSE is NOT CONNECTED IN THE SLIGHTEST. The ICC and the UN have a working RELATIONSHIP but cannot in ANY WAY be compared to the UN as an organization, except as I have noted at least a dozen times in that IT HAS AN INTERNATIONAL MEMBERSHIP. The ICC is an INTERNATIONAL COURT OF LAW - that is all. THE UN is not. They work together on occasion as does MacDonalds (another international organization that I am quite suure you are aware of!) and the FBI when matters of crime and legality are concerned. This does not make the FBI and MacDonalds a comparable organization.
My underlying point is this: we have not seen any real results in the six years and a few days of it's existence. It has cost well over 160 million euros during that time. It's relationship with the U.N. played a significant role in causing of the loss of its first attempt to try a case.
I have already stated that the ICC is an INFANT ORGANIZATION WITH ALL ITS START UP COSTS FRONT ENDED. For bloody hell's sakes, read peoples posts AND THINK ABOUT THEM before you respond. The 160 Million Euros has been used to structure, open offices, hire staff. pay wages, find financing, travel costs etc. et. etc. The 160 million Euro's is less than the cost of ONE MISSILE. Give this Organization a chance. It is barely six years old. Try to imagine setting up a window cleaning business that ecompasses a city. If you managed that in six years you would be viewed with admiration.
My immediate point is: while at least two posters here are virtually Fan-Boys for this body, and others openly decry that the U.S. sees faults with it and has not ratified membership, these enthusiasts casually gloss over any negative facts about this organization.
What negative facts? You have no clue what you are talking of James.
Folks like me who post some documented drawbacks or shortcomings with the ICC are labeled with "simplistic", "dense", or "uninformed".
There are just two folks who have done so on this thread, yourself and Burn. Both of you have made complete idiots out of yourselves by making definitive, sneering statements about an organization that both of you clearly knew NOTHING about. Since then you have tried so hard to validate your initial comments, but you have both failed miserably to do so. You were finished the minute that you tried to argue against fact with opinion, and yes, this is a very simplistic and dense thing to do in a debate James.
And yet the facts are the facts - 160 million euros, no convictions. I submit that in a few more years, we may well be asking where all that money went.
Shaking head again......
James, pretty soon you will be using your vote as a lethal weapon. For God's sakes, do your country a favor and educate yourself politically and learn to think critically before you cast your vote. I am beginning to understand why incompetent government appeals to may Americans.
HS
today, the international crime court celebrates its tenth anniversary .
i believe it has the potential to become a powerful tool against worldwide violations of human rights .
here's an introductory article on the court's proceedings and future activities:.
Burn,
I just cannot get the site of your crumpled body out of my mindHeh. Funny.
I am the first to admit that it it hard to see the humour when viewed grammatically. It is just that I have seen a picture of you, and I have seen Outlaw. Therein lies the humor in your threat to cause him physical harm were he to speak to you the way he does in person.
HS
today, the international crime court celebrates its tenth anniversary .
i believe it has the potential to become a powerful tool against worldwide violations of human rights .
here's an introductory article on the court's proceedings and future activities:.
Burn,
And you get a "manifesto" in the mail and somehow that has made you an international law expert!
lol...First you accuse me of not providing facts. Then you suggest that I view myself as an expert BECAUSE I produce facts. The reality is that you had no clue what you were talking about when you entered the thread, and are not much better off now. Face it boy, you have had your arse handed to you on a plate yet again. You just never learn do you?
Get a life HS. Don't you have an alleged "charity" to go volunteer at?
lol..Typical Burn style. Loses the argument, resorts to trying to undermine a persons reputation.
Don't you have an alleged person to beat up?...lol.....You and Outlaw in a fight....lol. I just cannot get the site of your crumpled body out of my mind...lol.
HS
today, the international crime court celebrates its tenth anniversary .
i believe it has the potential to become a powerful tool against worldwide violations of human rights .
here's an introductory article on the court's proceedings and future activities:.
James,
The first thing that needs to be noted in your input on this thread, is that like Burn you have 'learned on the job' and did not even bother researching what the ICC was before you began your sneering campaign. I know that US politics require such facile reactions to survive, but the ICC is not a government department. It is an organization set up to bring to justice those who have comitted crimes against humanity and to legally protect the lives of millions of others.
How old is it? a) 6 years and a few days b) about 5 years c) 10 years d) none of the above - correct answer is (a)
Correct answer b)
How many cases have been successfully prosecuted? a) none b) 12 c) dozens d) none of the above - correct answer is (a)
Indicted 12, imprisoned four, arrest warrants for six others, two died under pursuit. This has already been stated THREE times now.
Are they associated with the U.N.? a) yes b) no c) none of the above - correct answer is (a)
Your question is based on a mistaken assumption (suprise, suprise) No person has at ANY stage suggested that they were NOT associated with the UN. What has consistently been PROVEN by facts is that the ICC and the UN are TWO TOTALLY DIFFERENT ORGANIZATIONS. IN STRUCTURE, VALUES, PURPOSE, AND METHODOLOGY.
Where their remit is concerned, they have a REATIONSHIP with the UN who help them to track down criminals when needed. The ICC is COURT OF LAW. The UN is nothing of the sort. These two organizations are DISTINCT, SEPERATE ENTITIES.
Are you really this dense James that after so many repeated posts already answering your questions you post the muddle above?
Excuse my 'shouting', but I think it may be the only way to actually get you to read posts carefully.
HS