i apologize if this has already been posted- thought it was interesting and makes me wonder.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2453700/aliens-exist,-but-nasa-covers-them-up-says-astronaut.html.
dr edgar mitchell, said he was aware of several ufo visits during his career, but each one had been covered up.. .
Hamil,
Contrary to what one poster on another thread has claimed, it seems to be possible that great Americans differ in their opinions on important issues.
lol....
The emphasis seems to be in the word 'great'. There is little 'great' that can be seen either Tweedledum, or in Tweedledee, hence their melded opinions.
HS
i apologize if this has already been posted- thought it was interesting and makes me wonder.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2453700/aliens-exist,-but-nasa-covers-them-up-says-astronaut.html.
dr edgar mitchell, said he was aware of several ufo visits during his career, but each one had been covered up.. .
sinis,
Who do you think the ancients were REALLY describing in their accounts? The "gods" as religion likes to push on people, or something far more simplistic (aliens) that eventually took on a life of its own through oral and written traditions - which come to us in the form of "angels", and "gods" - good and evil, etc.?
You did not note the third option, natural events that were not understood but were interpreted through a haze of primitive ideologies.
HS
i apologize if this has already been posted- thought it was interesting and makes me wonder.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2453700/aliens-exist,-but-nasa-covers-them-up-says-astronaut.html.
dr edgar mitchell, said he was aware of several ufo visits during his career, but each one had been covered up.. .
sinis,
Who do you think the ancients were REALLY describing in their accounts? The "gods" as religion likes to push on people, or something far more simplistic (aliens) that eventually took on a life of its own through oral and written traditions - which come to us in the form of "angels", and "gods" - good and evil, etc.?
You did not note the third option, natural events that were not understood but were interpreted through a haze of primitive ideologies.
HS
i disassociated myself from this board a month ago, regrouped, caught up on necessary business, and now i want to come back.
you newbies won't remember the circumstances, but you "oldies but goodies" will.
is it okay if i return.
Journey On,
He would never admit though.... would 'ya, Mr. Step.
...actually I would. I have always enjoyed Gregor's posts, at least most of them. I thought his dramatic exit from the Board a little out of character. You don't know me at all do you Journey.
Gregor,
Then, recently, a third party pointed out to me that she was "coming back" and I have followed that thread the last couple of days. If my lurking on these occasions has brought shame on me I am truly humiliated and can only say it was done in all innocence of motive. I have missed your pithy posts and it goes without saying that you must have felt the void left by my absence. I hope my last post did not leave the impression I was sulking like a teenager going into their room and slamming the door. I was (am) genuinely disappointed in Simons initial thread. I am aware that he seems to have clarified and moderated the original impression. If I were to start posting again, at the risk of completely losing your respect, I would have to agree with Journey that politics would be a subject I would stay away from here.
Post away matey. Your posts are always valuable, and above all honest, which blows a refreshing and much needed breeze through many threads. I see no reason why you should stay away from political threads Gregor, as you always presented your views with a customary reason.
We may not agree in all our political views, but that is part of the joy of a vigorous debate - reassessment.
HS
i apologize if this has already been posted- thought it was interesting and makes me wonder.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2453700/aliens-exist,-but-nasa-covers-them-up-says-astronaut.html.
dr edgar mitchell, said he was aware of several ufo visits during his career, but each one had been covered up.. .
John,
Could be--I've never been in good health. But, at least I ain't an old man.
lol...You will be sooner than you think. An old man I mean. The 'good health' aspect is less reliable.
HS
i apologize if this has already been posted- thought it was interesting and makes me wonder.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2453700/aliens-exist,-but-nasa-covers-them-up-says-astronaut.html.
dr edgar mitchell, said he was aware of several ufo visits during his career, but each one had been covered up.. .
> - ASTRONAUTS: “Yes, they’re in the right place. But whoever made those space ships surely can come tomorrow and remove them. Over and out.”
lol....'Over and out!". This phrase would never have occurred in a NASA exchange.
Someone is funning with us.
HS
i apologize if this has already been posted- thought it was interesting and makes me wonder.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2453700/aliens-exist,-but-nasa-covers-them-up-says-astronaut.html.
dr edgar mitchell, said he was aware of several ufo visits during his career, but each one had been covered up.. .
John,
How old are you Hillary? lol
lol...Mid fifties and by the looks of your avatar, fitter than you are.
HS
i apologize if this has already been posted- thought it was interesting and makes me wonder.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2453700/aliens-exist,-but-nasa-covers-them-up-says-astronaut.html.
dr edgar mitchell, said he was aware of several ufo visits during his career, but each one had been covered up.. .
John,
The main part of your post tends to put down Dr Mitchell's views as being due to his age. The reality is that Dr Mitchell is very active mentally and tours the world lecturing on the subject.
The issue is more serious than age, it involves ideological delusion.
Being in ones late seventies does not automatically mean than ones brain functions are affected by age, just as having a young brain is not a guarantee of clear thinking.
HS
i disassociated myself from this board a month ago, regrouped, caught up on necessary business, and now i want to come back.
you newbies won't remember the circumstances, but you "oldies but goodies" will.
is it okay if i return.
Gregor,
How does humble pie taste? I might try it sometime.
Which brings us to an interesting ethical question. Can a person be described as having 'left' a discussion board when they are obviously still actively reading that board? HS
for me, it means that sometimes you have to give up the comfortable illusion that was pulled over your eyes and accept the consequences of being truly free to seek and find..... to "know thyself".
sometimes this is uncomfortable and lonely after having been a witness for many years.
i think that is why many jws choose to remain ignorant and inauthentic.. they fear authenticity.
Journey On,
Good thread. Your self-imposed exile has bought out the best in you : <------ (teasing)
As Willie The Shake penned, "To thine own self be true". I try my hardest to live by this adage in all facets of my life, both creative and practical.
It is tough after years as a JW of being told that you are not good enough and that if you do not improve God is going to execute you someday, but this emotionally destructive thinking can be overcome if one merely learns to accept that, for better of worse we are what we are and that in many ways, everybody is everybody else.
Learn to love the things in ourselves that we once may have hated, learn to accept that this is who we are, and then we are better able to change IF we want to. I have a friend, a Jewish man whose family fled persecution in Europe during WWII and moved to North America. He ran a recording studio for many years, and we have much in common, but at 88, he is the biggest pain in the arse I know. Trouble follows him around wherever he sits, and he sits a lot. He was recently banned from a local resteraunt because he overheard the chef make a racist comment about somebody and stormed in into the kitchen and made a scene....lol. ( I hope that at 88 I have this spirit).
Despite what I might see as his flaws, both as a friend and as a human, I love him. I accept who he is and would not want him to change. He is a good-hearted man and always has been. Why should I want him to fit into my mould?
We must learn to do this with ourselves. Accept ourselves warts and all, then if we feel the need to change ourselves we are better positioned to control the changes, rather then let them control us.
HS
