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  Never, Ever Believe A Thing They Tell You.

  by Englishman in

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  my son and daughter from my previous marriage have just been kicked in the teeth by witness teaching.

  they have never ever been jws, which makes it worse imo.. they have just been dumped by their jw grandfather, dumped by their uncle, dumped by their aunt.

  when my dfd ex-wife lost her mother a couple of years back, her jw sisters and brother decided to put a stop to my exs alienation.

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  E'Man,

  Yes, this predates the issue. I still smell the scent of elder intrusion though.

  HS
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  Only Fools And Horses Xmas Special

  by Englishman in

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  it's 5 years since dellboy and rodney made their last episode.

  i thought that fans may be interested to know that they are actually filming a 3 part christmas special here in wsm right now as i post this.. david jason (dellboy) paid my local pub a visit last time he was here, i actually nodded to him as though he was a regular before it sank in who he was.. maybe he will turn up again, hope he doesn't bring that plonker with him......!.

  englishman.. nostalgia isn't what it used to be....

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  E'Man,

  It has been quite a while since I saw an episode, but I still chuckle at the rememberance of the Batman and Robin fancy dress fiasco.

  Brilliant stuff - HS
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  Never, Ever Believe A Thing They Tell You.

  by Englishman in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  my son and daughter from my previous marriage have just been kicked in the teeth by witness teaching.

  they have never ever been jws, which makes it worse imo.. they have just been dumped by their jw grandfather, dumped by their uncle, dumped by their aunt.

  when my dfd ex-wife lost her mother a couple of years back, her jw sisters and brother decided to put a stop to my exs alienation.

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  hillary_step

  E'Man,

  Thinking on the sudden change of attitude, did this happen recently?

  The reason I ask is that a very recent 'Questions From Readers', softened the DF issue slightly, in that now a person, who seems to be making some sort of effort to lead a good life can be prayed for! Can you believe such audacity, instructing individuals who they can and cannot pray for.

  It was rather ambigously worded but was definately setting up road signs for a future softening of the whole DF issue.

  Coupled with a recent study article regarding the Prodigal Son and welcoming back 'sinners', especially family 'sinners', it may be that your family jumped the gun a little and were reigned back by their elders.

  Does this sound feasible? -- HS
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  Is The UK Goin' Bananas?

  by Englishman in

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  whats a-goin' on here?.

  i've never seen so many uk posters climbing aboard the 'postasy express.

  is there a general tightening up occuring?

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  hillary_step

  Path, my comment was made in jest. Just a quirky semi-Brit humor.

  HS
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  Is The UK Goin' Bananas?

  by Englishman in

  1. jw
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  whats a-goin' on here?.

  i've never seen so many uk posters climbing aboard the 'postasy express.

  is there a general tightening up occuring?

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  hillary_step

  Path,

  We are all Brothers under the junk DNA.

  HS
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  The Light Gets Brighter....

  by messenger in

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  a black man gets whiter..... .

  can restitution change the ethiopian's skin?

  the following, from the new york world, is the .

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  Tabby,

  Step down as being an Elder Messenger. We don't need you.

  As opposed to being a 'Younger Messenger', you mean? Surely a Messenger is a Messenger, who cares how old they are.

  HS
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  Mistakes Admitted by WTS?

  by Marvin Shilmer in

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  mistakes admitted by wts?

  i seek feedback on the following series of questions:.

  1. has the watchtower society publicly admitted its mistakes?

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  hillary_step

  Marvin,

  I did understand your original questions, though perhaps did not explain myself throughly enough, my apologies.

  My own take on this issue is that legally, an admission to a 'mistake' or an apology for a mistake are bound together is a bond of liabiblity that the WTS, or indeed any other religion of Corporation, can only afford to unravel at the cost of a legal precedent.

  I used an illustration with my Bank to show how this works in practice. A mistake was made and verbally admitted to, but an apology refused. I have known of two similar cases where the WTS has paid compensation to individuals specifically without admitting a mistake in writing, or issuing an apology in writing but accepting verbal responsibility. The payment of compensation is the legally safe method of dealing with the problem without setting a legal prority.

  I have never seen the WTS admit a mistake in print. The admission to fallibility, or past punishments by God, are not really an admission of mistakes. The WTS calls them 're-adjustments' and by definition then blames God for making them, as they are only his 'vessels'.

  However, I have heard a member of the GB verbally admit to errors of understanding, and a WT last year admitted that the WTS had been 'misinformed' over a number of doctrinal issues in the past. These statements fall well short of admissions of error and certainly could not be legally defined as such.

  Hope that this makes more sense - HS
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  Mistakes Admitted by WTS?

  by Marvin Shilmer in

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  mistakes admitted by wts?

  i seek feedback on the following series of questions:.

  1. has the watchtower society publicly admitted its mistakes?

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  hillary_step

  Marvin,

  A number of years ago a Bank in Europe made a mistake in processing a stock investment that I made.

  I was irritated and suggested an apology was in order. The bank accepted liability verbally and offered, without my request, that they would pay compensation to the tune of $27,000, far in excess of my potential losses, and indicative of a far more serious mistake than actually took place.

  In a meeting with the banks representatives, I offered a way out to them which would save them $27,000 - a written apology.

  They refused to give me this as 'it was not the Banks policy to apologize'. This was due of course to them opening a far greater legal pot of worms.

  The WTS, it seems to me, cannot apologize. If they did it would be an admission of liability that they legally could not afford to establish as a precedent. Far easier to lose a few 'disgruntled former members', as it likes to describe its victims, than to accept liability for its mistakes.

  Kindest regards - HS
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  Class Action Lawsuit

  by mikepence in

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  i am seriously considering finding out what is involved in putting together a lawsuit against the wts.

  one that all xjw's in the us can join in.. has the wts not violated our civil rights, taken away our right to choose, without bias, how to live our lives?

  were not our rights to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness violated?

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  hillary_step

  Mike,

  These cases have been fought before and easily lost.

  You must remember that while the WTS is huge to us, it is just one among a large number of religious and political groups whose members may feel justified in claiming the same case against their leaders.

  The Courts will not start something that they cannot contain and a legal precedent set with the JW's would have to be applied across a huge and uncontrollable arena.

  Best regards - HS
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  Is The UK Goin' Bananas?

  by Englishman in

  1. jw
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  whats a-goin' on here?.

  i've never seen so many uk posters climbing aboard the 'postasy express.

  is there a general tightening up occuring?

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  hillary_step

  E'Man,

  Have the local telephone charges reduced lately? When I was in Europe my telephone bill was commonly 400-600 pounds each month ($600-900) due to internet usage. Stateside I pay $35 per month for cable, and should I modem dial, it is free.

  I suspect as prices fall more European posters will log on.

  Best regards -- HS