can anyone ask raymond franz what he knows about the un involvement?.
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kpax
Do you yahoo? How about a voice chat sometime?
Skally, I have never chatted on-line, actually I would not know how! My ignorance is undoubtedly your bliss!
You mean because MY thinking does NOT align with yours? It never will...now.
Never say never, it never seems to turn out that way.
My best regards Skally - HS - In never, never-land
can anyone ask raymond franz what he knows about the un involvement?.
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kpax
Hahahaha, excuse me...attack? That was what YOU saw, and maybe others. Not my concern. I am not interesting in Mr. FRANZ' feelings; as it SEEMS he is too UNINTERESTED in certain things that are FELT by others. If you see that as an "attack" you are welcomed to it.
lol - I think that you may have a plum job waiting for you as a member of Idi Amin's Diplomatic Corp.
Best regards - HS
can anyone ask raymond franz what he knows about the un involvement?.
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kpax
Hello Skally,
I would just like to make clear for the sake of those who might have been confused, that the statement in which you quote the words uninterested and aging in describing RF attitude were not written by myself.
What I did write was that RF is working on projects as we speak. I cannot of course take responsibility for the other posters viewpoint. I can only speak for my own.
My comment regarding your reactive inclinations to many posts to this Board is a matter of public record and you are of course entitled to react in any way you wish, to any post you wish. However Skally, you must expect that people may vehemently disagree with your viewpoints as I did with your attack on RF, which seemed to me did not originate from a clear grasp of the facts and could result in public damage to a persons reputation who is not here to defend themselves.
If you cannot stomach contemplating my own viewpoint on RF and his motivations, I would suggest you read the posts by Teejay and Lionel noted above as they encapsulate the whole issue very nicely.
Kindest regards -- HS
we, the leaders of the watchtower society wish to announce the.
end of mailed subscriptions in the u.s. this action is now being.
combined with other downsizing measures such as printing paperback.
Its the crafty downsizing of Branch building projects and yet instructions to develop and speed up worldwide Kingdom Hall building projects that has me shaking my head.
Think about it. Who pays for Kingdom Halls. Who gets the benefit of its worth as assets? When Branches are sued as they certainly will be soon, the Branches may be seized and held as visible assets but the Kingdom Halls as places of worship would not.
Rather clever planning - HS
can anyone ask raymond franz what he knows about the un involvement?.
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kpax
Skally,
Wait a sec, I thought he was too old and uninterested.Please do not confuse the processes of 'reacting' and 'thinking', they are very different.
In your posts the past few days I have seen one of these processes developed into an art form.
HS
can anyone ask raymond franz what he knows about the un involvement?.
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kpax
Hello,
The mode of worship of the WTS is one based on the superficial requirement of visibility.
If an adherent is seen to be ‘seen’ at the meetings, ministry, assemblies, building projects etc. this is interpreted in terms of spirituality. Elders have to be ‘seen’ taking the lead, etc. etc. I am sure we all have seen this in operation and have grown to repudiate its effect on the lives of millions.
For example, a Pioneer, though lacking in any mature spirituality and though being noted for an appalling attitude of self-righteousness is always viewed as more ‘spiritual’ that a person engaging in just a few hours of Ministry. Why? Because they fulfill the sytems requirement of visibility. Visibility and spirituality become transferable words. This of course is an absurd system, similar to the one established by the Pharisees and their cohorts in the C1st, and craftily copied by Joseph Rutherford. It is not based on what truly identifies a good person but is an appeal to a superficial system of judgment that is attractive to those whose thinking has been distorted, and those self-serving individuals that scurry around all such corridors of power. Most of us have rightly been repulsed at the whole concept of judging a persons worth by their measuring up to a list of visible standards, while the person within goes unfed.
We would be duplicating this whole concept by beginning and escalating a judgment call on Raymond Franz based on what we perceive that he should now be ‘seen’ to be doing. Most of us are totally unaware of the projects that this elderly and now ailing man is working on as we speak, and that he does not wear his heart on his sleeve does not undermine the effectiveness of what he has achieved in the past. If he manages nothing else in his life, he has given freedom to many of us who were imprisoned in the emotional prison described above.
RF has on numerous occasions publicly apologized for the part he played in solidifying the foundations of a system he now views as corrupt. Most of us have not as yet done this because we perceive ourselves to be victims of people like Ray Franz. Those of you who have read his books realize that in many ways he was as much a victim as we were. Leave the man to find some peace in his life.
It is said that revolutions devour their children, let us hope that RF does share this fate.
Best regards - HS
can anyone ask raymond franz what he knows about the un involvement?.
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kpax
Skally,
Not sure MY inquiries are any of your business or any one else's for that matter. Actually, I AM sure. Butt out of MY business and my inquiries.
Perhaps you should keep your private business off public discussion boards, that way your charming sensibilities might be better protected.
HS
can anyone ask raymond franz what he knows about the un involvement?.
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kpax
Hi Skally,
I see. Could you tell us exactly what it is he is interested in concerning ALL that's been discovered and uncovered re: WTBTS in the past few years; yet more importantly, the recent "events". Is he too working with Dateline to push this snowball to it's peak destination(the cliff)? Why hasn't he gone in front of the media, or written a naional news article w/ a journalist as of yet to at least try to tell "HisTory"?
Not sure that this is any of our business really.
Best regards - HS
due to the proliferation of newbies wishing to call us home to christ or whatever other movement they deem appropiate it might be good to review the following to balance the extreme perspecitves a bit... .
jesus christ, king of the pedophiles.
jesus christ (wld) .
Simon,
Most just use it to try and confirm their own, already held, beliefs.
lol - I just used it to confirm that getting spiffed on dingo urine is a lot cheaper than LSD, but hardly results in the same level of creativity.
Written by a playwright who no doubt will be sticking to his day-job even if his employer does not repair the dishwasher.
Cheers -- HS
due to the proliferation of newbies wishing to call us home to christ or whatever other movement they deem appropiate it might be good to review the following to balance the extreme perspecitves a bit... .
jesus christ, king of the pedophiles.
jesus christ (wld) .
Ignorance is a prolonged infancy, only deprived of its charm. -Boufflers
