Well, this is how I make it. You can adjust proportions.
For 2 cups of gravy you need 2 to 3 tablespoons of grease, it can be bacon grease or sausage grease, whatever you cooked for breakfast.
Over medium heat in skillet heat grease and add 2 to 4 tablespoons of flour, depending on how thick you like it. Cook the roux stirring til golden brown and slowly add while still stirring 2 cups of milk. Add alot of black pepper and some salt and let cook about 4 to 5 minutes, to make sure the flour is cooked and that it is thick. Yum!
This is the gravy I use when I cook chicken fried steak, fried chicken or pork chops. Or whenever I need some real comfort food.
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Southerner's version of Breakfast gravy
by restrangled ini know i can count on everyone here to get me the best recipe for southern country gravy for breakfast.. and yes, i have searched the internet....but this is important.
it's our 29 anniversary tomorrow, and i want to treat my husband to a wonderful breakfast before he leaves for work.. your responses much apprecieated!.
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kids in awful wreck..one has died...other in and out of coma...
by oompa inreally sad...it was just five days before armageddon....my lucky son that died has a wonderful eternity in paradise since he was resurrected and has 12 concubines (since the resurrected could not marry and there were always more women than men)...my other son...the loser lived!.....he would have been ok...but damm...armageddon struck just five days later and he was destroyed!....damm his luck!.....why could he not have been as lucky and been killed too?
?.......ya.....that makes sense for a loving and just god.....................................oompa
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Okay, so the subject line was jolting - but effective. It really helped make the point hit home that this really is how many dubs feel. They would rather their own children die now so that they can reassure themselves of their presence later. They abandon them now and promise to love them later. How screwed up is that? Knowing Oompa, he would never deliberately upset everyone like that, he just gets so enthusiastic about the point he's making. We love our little drama queen, don't we?
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#1 reason they go in service...be honest!..........
by oompa inya a beautiful fall day here....trees ablaze with color...and a slight drizzle...me sippin yummy coffee...wife crammin her bookstudy book, then off to meeting and service........god she dresses up a lot!....i fogot how much i did that.....i have about $2000,00 of suits getting dusty in my closet if anybody needs a 42 long btw......so i just asked myself and sooo wanted to ask my wife "why are you really going out in service today?
".......and there are many automatic jw answers:.
1. jesus said we must go and make disciples, and it is the loving thing to do..........2. because the time is short and have to save as many as possible......3. because we love our neighbors ( but i cant frikin have them over for a grillout!).........
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Oh yeah, the number one reason is the guilt trip they lay on you if your hours are low.
I too would have rather sat talking to someone pleasantly than go from door to freaking door.
I had one study that had multiple emotional problems, half the time I visited her in the psychiatric ward and I STILL would rather have done that than knock on unknown doors. By the way, later she moved and got baptized in another congregation and just recently she called and said she didn't think she was gonna make it because she had fallen in love with another woman! Fortunately, now I was able to be completely sympathetic. -
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I applaud you standing up for yourself. Making a show of their righteousness is much more important than showing concern for your brothers and sisters. At one of the last meetings we attended a brother sat right behind us and hacked and honked throughout. Afterwards he greeted us and put his hand out to my husband who merely looked at it and said "Thats quite an ugly cough you've got there isn't it?" The brother dropped his hand and hemmed and hawed and got the hell out of Dodge. One more reason to view us as dangerous freaks I suppose.
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Defence of watchtower society Links
by reniaa ini thought long and hard before making this thread, that many will not agree with it but i think there needs to be balance and people to realise there are alternate viewpoints out there on many of these subjects, the ones that are most spoke about on this forum.
i was recently sent a full message containing mary's book and these links give the rebuttal to many of her points.
those that are still open-minded enough feel free to look over them even if in the end you still don't agree at least you have heard both the defence as well as the attack as they are on the internet.
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Renaii
As a lurker here, I'm sure you will give my response no credence, but then you give no credence to anyone on this board.
The reasons I left the Watchtower had nothing to do with NGO status or the handling of abuse cases, and I believe I have some very good company in this. I am tired of living in fear, fear of dying at Armageddon because I could never do enough, fear of the opinions of the elders and the others in the congregation (again: that I could never do enough). The constant changing of 'new light', of being told that Armageddon is just around the corner, the mental and moral gymnastics of grasping the constant changes to the Truth (how oxymoronic) and the lack of love from the 'most loving people on earth'.
I am 4th generation, I have seen the damage done to the faithful servants of Jehovah who gave up everything to do what the Faithful Slave told them to do before 1975 and who then scraped by and died in poverty. I have seen damage done to those faithful who tried to do everything they were instructed to do from the stage and ended up bloodied and broken (metaphorically speaking) and abandoned by these 'loving' people.
I am frankly amazed by your hypocrisy, you who claim that they are the ones who follow Jehovah. What happened to the commandment to 'quit mixing in the company' of those who among other things are apostate?
While you may have done 'research', you betray a woeful ignorance of the difference between what they preach and what they practice. Oh, wait, don't you do the same thing? Maybe you do belong in the 'Christian Congregation of Jehovah's Witnesses'. -
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We had a family in our congregation that you would not believe.
They were former bethelites, maybe that helps explain why the husband wore a woman's winter coat that was given to them! (he was really short).
They would do anything to save a penny. To get their son to take shorter showers they told him that it would automatically cut off after 5 minutes and then the father would go outside and under the trailer with a stopwatch and cut off the water! Is this theocratic war stratagy in action!
To save money on food the whole family would go dumpster diving! They would sift through the dumpsters at local grocery stores and salvage the vegetables that the stores threw out - and then they would brag about it if you were ignorant enough to accept their invitations for dinner!
This next story may be enough to out me in my small town, but I just have to tell this. I used to work for the fire department, and one time they were called out by a concerned citizen who saw a bunch of mutilated deer carcasses near their house, thinking it was someone involved in witchcraft or something sick. Well, you guessed it, it was our former bethel family, who had asked local hunters for the carcasses of deer they shot, and really I don't think I want to remember what they wanted them for, maybe they were going to skin them and make clothes?
I can't remember, and I'm not sorry.
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Speaking of depression ...
by easyreader1970 ini didn't want to hijack the suicide topic because it was a bit more serious than what i am about to say.
not that what i am about to say is comical.
i've been dealing with major depression for the past year and a half or so.
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No one can tell you what you need to do, we can only speak from our own opinions and experiences.
I can see that you are in a no win situation right now, if I read correctly you feel paralyzed.
I have suffered from depression for 40 years and I can only speak from my own experience. Seeing a psychologist helped me tremendously in learning different, less self defeating ways to think. He also helped me see the uses of medication in perspective. It is true that there are two basic types of depression, chemical imbalance and situational. In the case of chemical imbalance, it is easy to see that medication simply evens out that imbalance. For situational depression, medication can help in two ways; first, situational depression over time can cause a chemical imbalance and again, medication can even that imbalance out, next situational depression can be helped by medication at least temporarily because it can relieve the depression thereby enabling you to feel better and giving you the emotional and physical energy to make some changes in your life.
Depression is a soul sucking black hole, and I found it impossible to do anything about my life until the medication let me feel good enough to think and act.
Please get help from a professional and if they recommend medication, consider it seriously.
In my case with the help of counseling and medication, I have been able to make real changes in many areas of my life and I am at the point of being able to go it without medication, even after 40 years.
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Has anyone here made their own beef jerky? Can you give me tips?
by UnConfused inthanks in advance
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Echo JeffT and HappyDad:
You want it THIN, I used a round roast (when we were still going backpacking) and set it up in the freezer.
Sometimes I'd marinate it in soy sauce, Worchestershire, fresh grated ginger,fresh minced garlic, black pepper, crushed red pepper and a little mirin (a sweet Chinese cooking wine).
We liked it spicy!
I'd marinate the slices at least 24 hours before dehydrating it.
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Lets see if I can remember:
James Taylor
Three Dog Night
Black Sabbath
Alice Cooper
Yes
Pink Floyd
ELO
Emerson Lake and Palmer
Led Zep
Blue Oyster Cult and Billy Preston
Cars
Jackson Browne and Emmy Lou Harris
CSN&Y
Prince
Santana
Dylan
Paul Mcartney
Jimmy Buffet (every year)
Deep Purple
Leon Russell
Black Oak Arkansas
Doobie Brothers
Jethro Tull
Moody Blues
Macy Gray
Alan Jackson
Toby Keith
Kenny Chesney
Tony Bennet and KD Lang
John Prine and Nancy Griffith
Tom Petty
Stevie Nicks
Doobie Brothers
Black Shelton
Kenny Wayne Shelton
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Attention Book Lovers!!!!!!!
by whyamihere inok, i am on my 8th book this month - not too bad for this mommy.
anyway, i've gotten back to my previous life of indulging myself into books that you can't put down.
little children by tom perrotta.. excellently portrayed 2 unhappily married suburbans who's repetitive wrong choices impact a their dull lives, yet alter your own moral thinking of them being heroic in their quest to find happiness with a self imprisoned/trapped marriage they each lead.
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Ooh, you guys sound way more intellectual than I am!
I read for escapism: anything by John Connolly Every Dead Thing, Dark Hollow, etc; anything by Randy Wayne White Dark Night, Tampa Burn etc; Simon Green especially the Nightside series; historical mysteries Fiona Buckley; anything by Preston and Child,
adventure by Jeff Long Descent, and James Rollins Map of Bones and my very guilty pleasure is supernatural/vampire fiction Laurell K Hamilton, Kelley Armstrong...
I read alot and the library lets me do that and not bankrupt myself, lol
I'm jealous Rob!