Under Arm Bowling
I declare NZ the winner !
"But it does move"
Galileo
any kiwis post here?
now that that silly "yanks versus poms" thread has pretty well exhausted itself, how about an oz v nz thread?.
scoring could be difficult.
Under Arm Bowling
I declare NZ the winner !
"But it does move"
Galileo
on the subject of prayer: this is addressed to the more atheistic or agnostic ones amongst us.. now, all those years i prayed really hard when times were tough, and then things worked out.
i now believe it was my own hard work that gave the solutions.
prayer was helpful in that i felt i had help.
Scorpion by name scorpion by nature. We are getting off the topic a bit. You haven't realy refuted my argument (or understood it for that mater)
Superfine Apostate Class
"But it does move"
Galileo
now that i've got a pic up, i'm moved to recount an experience which occurred at the time it was taken.
on my last night in auckland before flying back home, i stayed at a friend's place; she was going to drive me to the airport in the morning.
in the morning (saturday), just before we were about to drive to the airport, there was a knock at the door, and guess who it was!
Make freinds with any sheep. send me an email
on the subject of prayer: this is addressed to the more atheistic or agnostic ones amongst us.. now, all those years i prayed really hard when times were tough, and then things worked out.
i now believe it was my own hard work that gave the solutions.
prayer was helpful in that i felt i had help.
Don't you see that your making it up as you go along. One premis leads to another untill you have a pile of bullshit 6 feet high. Why does God need people to justify him. There is definatly something wrong with reasoning that gets more and more convoluted as it develops.
Most often the simplest answer is the corect one.
on the subject of prayer: this is addressed to the more atheistic or agnostic ones amongst us.. now, all those years i prayed really hard when times were tough, and then things worked out.
i now believe it was my own hard work that gave the solutions.
prayer was helpful in that i felt i had help.
Scorpion: I’m certainly not sitting on my arse relying on a mythical god to fix things. By referring to charitable “funds” you minimise the problem and are passing the buck. Charitable organisations by there own admission are inadequate. (Unlike yourself I suspect. I am an atheist and have direct links to third world countries and until now have never blown my trumpet about it. I don’t rely on “funds” but am directly involved)
Emyrose: My (rather blunt) point is. Why would God get involved with small things and not seem to care about larger issues. While you feel God helped you there are others he hasn’t helped. For instance I know of a JW woman who was beaten, raped tied up then burnt alive in her car. Don’t tell me she didn’t pray or that God didn’t listen because her prayers weren’t acceptable. But then maybe she didn’t read her day text that morning and had to be punished
i'm john, and this is mary.
he can do whatever he wants, and what he wants is to give you a million dollars, but he can't until you kiss his ass.
kiss hank's ass and he'll give you a million dollars when you leave town.
lol
Ok then Well found. You still get the award.
"But it does move"
Galileo
on the subject of prayer: this is addressed to the more atheistic or agnostic ones amongst us.. now, all those years i prayed really hard when times were tough, and then things worked out.
i now believe it was my own hard work that gave the solutions.
prayer was helpful in that i felt i had help.
Emyrose: Don’t read this if you are the sensitive type I suspect.
Sorry Emyrose but my logic table says if God doesn’t communicate (in any meaningful way) or intervene (in any meaningful way) he may as well not exist.
I wonder why God helped you with your panic attack but doesn’t help starving children in Africa. Does God love you more? Or are those starving Africans evil bastards who don’t deserve any help? Just wondering.
"But it does move"
Galileo
no, this ain't no advertisement, since the auction is long over.... * http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/ebayisapi.dll?viewitem&item=1129186088.
just wanted to illustrate the value some collectors put on the old watchtower stuff, and that it is wise to hang onto it and if someone wants to 'pay through the teeth' to acquire it, well and good, because that way it is preserved, and not gone and forgotten, but rather the watchtower's rich heritage lives on and the litter-chewer & sundry memorabilia is on someone's shelf or in their display cabinet for anyone to see in case there's a future challenge that such never existed.. who in their right mind would pay over $13 bucks for a little worm-eaten tea bag??
a krazy kult kollector, that's who!.
I've got some old stuff I may want to sell
"But it does move"
Galileo
on the subject of prayer: this is addressed to the more atheistic or agnostic ones amongst us.. now, all those years i prayed really hard when times were tough, and then things worked out.
i now believe it was my own hard work that gave the solutions.
prayer was helpful in that i felt i had help.
Payer to my understanding seems to be one side of the brain talking to the other. I think the shame is that some religious organisations (that shall remain nameless) limit the choices and options we have in solving problems by saying things like “God doesn’t listen if you’re a sinner”, “God doesn’t listen if you pray for disfellowshiped people” etc etc etc. Example November 15 Watchtower entitled “Does Praying Do Any Good?” gave plenty of reasons as to why God doesn’t listen but none as to why he would.
It is liberating to make your own decisions. Not being limited in your choices.
I had always tried to do things Gods way in every decision in my life. And if I didn’t know or couldn't find an answer I let God (Life) make the decision for me (left it in Gods hands). Even if it was to my personal detriment. The self sacrificing spirit. Fool that I was. I just ended up sacrificed. God did not bless me for it. I have no evidence that God has ever intervened in my life or given realistic direction. The smart decisions I made myself.
Think. Does the governing body leave things in Gods hands or do they make “wise business decisions” and “prudent investments” (always finding a “scriptural principal” to support there human decision). If they did leave things in Gods hands were do you think they would end up. I think its interesting that they always find scriptural justification to make human decisions.
"But it does move"
Galileo
told by the elders yesterday that since i'm a official at a sports match on saturdays and i won't quit doing it (they mention it occasionally to me at meetings), that they won't be allowing me to get baptised the next assembly coming up.
it might matter if i was working 5 days a week but at the moment i'm only working 2 days......(i've already racked up 50 hours this month).
i remember a talk a while back with the theme "what prevents you from getting baptised?
I suspect its the "Girl Thing" thats making you stay.
Stop thinking with your dick