Even if they didn't agree with the change, 'Where else could they go?'
Captivity is not dependent upon doctrine. It's an issue of authority. The leadership has it all, the individual has none.
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Do You Think All This New Light Will Rattle Any Of The Witnesses?
by minimus inor do you think the sheeple will just follow the gb's words without question?.
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My first grandaughter. Candace
by Glander inshe is a beautiful young woman, inside and out.
i am very proud of her.
she was only 4.5 lbs at birth and dropped to .
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Jwfacts-- More Lies But This Time About The Great Crowd
by Recovery injwfacts has an article that explains why the great crowd must be in heaven.
i am also aware that many of these are the same arguments that stemmed from the 'awakenings at bethel' so my statements are not simply attacks of jwfact's character (since these arguments are probably not original) but rather his copy and paste of what others have said instead of verifying it as 'fact' for himself.. so here are jwfacts arguments:.
1. he shows that russell and rutherford (at some point) believed that the great crowd were in heaven.. 2. each term that describes the great crowd of revelation 7 is else used to described the anointed by the wt.
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Please tell your friends at the Kingdom Hall about this discovery. They deserve the real truth.
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Help me wake up my friends please!
by MsGrowingGirl20 ini know that this may be impossible and will surely get me a judicial comittee but i'm tired of keeping mum about how i feel.
so, i'm going to e-mail my two friends (two women under 35 who both got baptised within the last five years and one married a brother this year.they're both pioneers) and tell them what's bothering me and ttatt.. i'm going to do it tomorrow night.
i have some points already but i may have left out some.
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leavingwt
MsGrowingGirl20: Just checking in to see how things went.
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Was it all for nothing ? We can't we start over again ?
by raymond frantz ini know 99% of the posts here are for exposing wt doctrines and fallacies ,but there was a time that we really believed that we had full bible understanting .i know now that this is the case ,but why can't we use that as a starting point rather than the end of the road ?
why can't we be more like the jews of john the baptist's day that acknoledged their errors and started over again by whiping the slater clean and getting baptised in expectation of the messiah's coming ?.
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Satan is just like the Easter Bunny.
Once you realize he doesn't exist, no need to worry about him.
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Help me wake up my friends please!
by MsGrowingGirl20 ini know that this may be impossible and will surely get me a judicial comittee but i'm tired of keeping mum about how i feel.
so, i'm going to e-mail my two friends (two women under 35 who both got baptised within the last five years and one married a brother this year.they're both pioneers) and tell them what's bothering me and ttatt.. i'm going to do it tomorrow night.
i have some points already but i may have left out some.
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leavingwt
Don't do it.
You'll be excommunicated, then shunned by 99% of your closest "friends" and family. Worse, you'll be treated worse than an adulterer or a murderer. Apostasy is the worst offense. They will interpret your actions as an attack upon Jehovah, and an attack upon them personally.
These people you want to help are incapable of being helped. Let that sink in.
Facts are rendered helpless when confronted with the power of belief.
If these people ever want to leave, they can find the help they need.
Please read one of Steve Hassan's books.
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SAD news about OOMPA......
by redredrose inour friend, oompa, has passed away.
just recieved the news a couple of hours ago, and have almost no details.
it happened today or yesterday, he took his own life.
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leavingwt
Effing cult.
May he rest in peace.
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Dang: 9 years
by FlyingHighNow ini just realized this is my 9th jwd/jwn anniversary.
what a long strange trip it's been.
i am very grateful to simon and ang for providing this site.
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A question for Undercover and others
by tornapart inundercover, i was interested in your last post and how you felt that believing in god is a delusion.
i'm not interested in any debates over it but i saw you have been here for 10 years!
that's some stay!
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Let us be true to ourselves -- true to the facts we know, and let us, above all things, preserve the veracity of our souls.
If there be gods we cannot help them, but we can assist our fellow-men. We cannot love the inconceivable, but we can love wife and child and friend.
We can be as honest as we are ignorant. If we are, when asked what is beyond the horizon of the known, we must say that we do not know. We can tell the truth, and we can enjoy the blessed freedom that the brave have won. We can destroy the monsters of superstition, the hissing snakes of ignorance and fear. We can drive from our minds the frightful things that tear and wound with beak and fang. We can civilize our fellow-men. We can fill our lives with generous deeds, with loving words, with art and song, and all the ecstasies of love. We can flood our years with sunshine -- with the divine climate of kindness, and we can drain to the last drop the golden cup of joy.
-- Robert G. Ingersoll
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A question for Undercover and others
by tornapart inundercover, i was interested in your last post and how you felt that believing in god is a delusion.
i'm not interested in any debates over it but i saw you have been here for 10 years!
that's some stay!
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leavingwt
tornapart: Please try it again. This time, it's clickable.