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PRESS RELEASE 5-23-02

by silentlambs in

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first candlelight vigil for jehovah's witness child rape victims .

church leaders move to crush support group for abused .

advocates provide proof the problem exists.

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Dedalus,

Thank you for clarifying. I do understand what you're saying.

We've often compared disfellowshipping to death, especially since JWs treat DFd people as walking dead. That's why I thought the analogy could fit. I also think the Society's witch-hunt, focusing on the four people involved in the Dateline piece, does make them martyrs.

Is Bill's literal life at risk? Is he fighting for a Democratic government? Is he Chinese? Of course not, but I think there are enough similarities to justify the analogy.

As for attention-grabbing? Well, maybe Bill has learned the fine art of the sound bite.

Anyway, as you said, we can agree to disagree. When I saw the initial exchange between you and Michael, I just worried that another rip-roaring JWD flame war was abrewin'.

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PRESS RELEASE 5-23-02

by silentlambs in

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friends

first candlelight vigil for jehovah's witness child rape victims .

church leaders move to crush support group for abused .

advocates provide proof the problem exists.

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Dedalus,

Tell me, how exactly is Bill (or any one of us who care about what's going on here) like one of the student protestors at Tiananmen Square? How does that historical analogy clarify the problem of the Organization concealing child molestation?

The connection that I got was especially of the four that have been--or are in the process of--being disfellowshipped for speaking out. The Tiananmen analogy seemed to be about the organization running over anyone who dares to protest its corrupt policies. I imagine that Bill was saying that people like the Pandelos and himself are like that solitary man/woman (can't remember off-hand) who placed themselves in front of oncoming Chinese tanks, heedless of the personal consequences.

Now, you may consider it self-aggrandizing histrionics, but from an editorial standpoint, I'm not sure you can say the analogy is "anachronistic" or apples and oranges.

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PS Michael3000 took a small swipe at you and you respond with "fuck you, asshole"... and you accuse Mr. Bowen of histrionics?

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Correction: Dateline says 10:PM Eastern

by Amazing in

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friends

edit: maybe i goofed.

i did not watch dateline tonight, and did not hear stone philips say it would be shown at 7:00 pm eastern.

this is better, because family and some friends on the west coast will have it easier.

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Mike,

Are you guys false prophets?

Some, in their desire to see this wicked old policy come to an end, have speculated when the great hour of Dateline the almighty would arrive. But we "bring a heart of wisdom in" by patiently waiting on Stone Phillips. True lovers of programming know that no one knows the hour or minute; only NBC President Bob Wright, and his Dateline Executive Producer Neal Shapiro.

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Correction: Dateline says 10:PM Eastern

by Amazing in

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friends

edit: maybe i goofed.

i did not watch dateline tonight, and did not hear stone philips say it would be shown at 7:00 pm eastern.

this is better, because family and some friends on the west coast will have it easier.

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Well I'm leaving nothing to chance. I've got NBC on right now, and I aint turnin' it off until Wednesday afternoon.

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Correction: Dateline says 10:PM Eastern

by Amazing in

jw
friends

edit: maybe i goofed.

i did not watch dateline tonight, and did not hear stone philips say it would be shown at 7:00 pm eastern.

this is better, because family and some friends on the west coast will have it easier.

Hmmm

I believe this web page is out of date. There is an NBA playoff game next Tuesday. There is no way they'll preempt the basketball game for Dateline. Go to www.tvguide.com and check the listings for next week. It says Dateline airs at 8:00 in the east, followed by the game at 9:00.

Or you could just set your VCR to record from 8:00 to 11:00 and be sure to catch it.

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Can you help me post my picture?

by bluesapphire in

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can someone help me post my picture on my profile?.

i also want to post some other pics but i don't know how.

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Well, if I'd known you looked like that, I would have helped you post your picture a long time ago.

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Pedophilia -- WT Coverup?

by accuracy in

the following, from the watchtower magazine of january 1, 1997, does not support the idea that the wts is a "pedophile's paradise.

" the wts also pointedly spoke out against pedophilia over 9 years ago in the awake!

magazine of october 8, 1993. for the protection of our children, a man known to have been a child molester does not qualify for a responsible position in the congregation.

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Actions, accuracy, actions.

What is conspicuous by its absence is any notion of going to the authorities.

Doesn't it make you the least bit squeemish that this is the strongest stance you could find the society take on child rape?Congregational sanctions? Give me a break.

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Take Responsibility For Your Thrownness

by non_trias_theos in

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we are the decisions we make.

we are thrown into the world and left to make of it what we will.

non trias thinks there is some truth to these observations.. god has allowed us to see the light of life so that we might make of it what we will.

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$$$Let me answer that for you.
Because it isn't God that wants you to be afraid...it's the
guys at the top, who want to see you out there making other
Dubs. Peddling magazines. They don't care if you believe,
just don't cause trouble.$$$

Funny, dude. I thought Matthew 24:14 and 28:19-20 was the reason we wuz out dere preaching. Coulda fooled me.[/quote]

You're right. You are being fooled. Don't take it too hard. We were all fooled at one time into thinking that selling literature door-to-door was biblically ordained and part of some grand separating work. Depending on which way the wind is blowing this week, I think the separating thingie is out, but they still claim selling magazines is a biblical mandate.

However, inability to clearly communicate aside, you seem like a smart enough guy. I'm confident that before Armageddon gets here, you'll see the truth.

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" Logic problem "

by BATHORY in

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in a previous thread dmouse mocks me for giving a serious reponse to what i see as a serious question about infinity from pubsinger.. it said that " it has nothing to do with reality, its just a logic problem " or some crap to that tune.. ok dmouse to appease yourself to the board, and buy back face, i ask you the following.

please answer according to the " obvious law " you imposed on me.

a question was asked on the scientific american magazine web site(sciam.com) which was close to this, .

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sleepy,

This is similar to what my Junior High chemistry teacher told me. I believe he was basing his statements on Einstein's writings (he had a major jones for Einstein) when he said that "time is change." By that notion, if we could measure the smallest change, then the time it took for that change to occur is the smallest measurable unit of time. I can't remember, but I thought he said the smallest measurement of change was the vibration of electrons as they orbited the nucleus of an atom. That was many years ago.

Dunssco... uh, I mean, non_trias_theos might have the "obvious law" that bathory is looking for.

If I understand correctly, the "Planck length" is the distance scale at which gravity crosses over from the quantum to the 'classically measurable' and is about 1.6 x 10^-35* m or about 1 x 10^-20** times the size of a proton. Any distance under this is impossible to measure because you cannot accurately determine the position and momentum of a subatomic particle closer than this "Compton Wavelength." (Maybe this is the 'vibration' that my Junior High teacher was talking about. And I thought he was an idiot because he believed in evolution...)

"Planck time" is the time it would take a photon in a vacuum cleaner to travel that distance--about 1 x 10^-43*** seconds.

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To get an idea of how small 1.6 x 10^-35 is, compare it to how large our sun is, which has a mass of 2 x 10^33 grams

* .00000000000000000000000000000000016 meters
** .000000000000000000001 the lenght of a proton
*** .00000000000000000000000000000000000000000001 seconds

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JW's Kicked out of Ground Zero!

by Mister Biggs in

i knew it!!!

the article is lengthy but june brown, a retired legal secretary from atlanta and veteran salvation army relief volunteer, said this about jw's:.

"a lot of people don't like it when they grab you by the collar," brown said.

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Hmmm-
Thanks for the tip.
However, I just created Mister 8iggs

It's a bit disconcerting that I play stupid and people don't think I'm joking!!! Is this the reputation I've built up?

JanH,
Wow. The Scientologists do make JWs seem like rank amateurs when it comes to scamming people. I wonder if that's because more people in Scientology's hierarchy know it's all BS, so they don't mind stooping to any level, or just that they're not constrained by moral principles (their core work not being based on the Bible, but on a science fiction writer's imagination.)