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  Jan 1st WT: Reaching out, Higher Education and Providing for one's needs

  by truthseeker in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  well, as a nice start to the new year, the jan 1st watchtower article, "how firm is your trust in god" blasts those who live comfortable lives, those who don't reach out, and those who pursue higher education.. definitely, they are taking a harsher stand, having completely painted themselves into a corner.. i highlighted the interesting comments.

  i did not include all the text for each paragraph, just the main points.. .

  1 a young man wanted to be more useful to the congregation.

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  They have found me! (At last)

  by PaulJ in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i've just had a telephone conversation with my wife about 1/2 an hour ago.

  we have had a visit from the local jw's this morning.

  from the upstairs window my wife conducted a brief conversation where she basically told them thst she wasnt the best person to speak to, as her husband used to be a jw.

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  It’s like a blight that will not go away. You are targeted in their minds for life as unworthy if they get negative vibes from you. That “left the truth” comment is a condescending f%^&witt statement that I also remember making years ago.
  

  An elder was at my door two days ago to offer me a book that I refused. He was polite however he will report back to the other dupes with a feather in his cap simply because he had some contact with me.

  Some elders have an agenda to clean house of any stragglers in their area. Having the idea all your neighbors care or notice you were or are a JW. It’s an over sense of importance / grandiose thinking instilled in JW’s by years of conditioning. So yes a note is made and you will be noticed probably more so than one of their own in need.
  

  
  HCM
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  Another cover-up of child assault in France

  by chasson in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  sorry, it will appear in french: .

  bordeaux, 7 oct 2005 (afp)- .

  la cour d'assises de la gironde a condamne vendredi a 12 ans de .

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  Translation software, French to Enghlish: BORDEAUX, Oct. 7, 2005 (AFP) - The court of sat of the Gironde condemned Friday to 12 years of criminal reclusion a former follower of the witnesses of old Jehovah of 66 years, to have raped his/her daughter during three years whereas it was old less than 10 years. Sworn went beyond requisitions of the prosecuting attorney who had claimed 10 years of reclusion against this former soldier who saw today in a caravan with Saint-Antoine-on-The Isle, the Livornese. It appeared free for "rapes on minor 15 years by ascending legitimate "and had been placed under legal control after having spent one year of provisional detention. In June 1991, the Witnesses of Jéhovah had made appear the man in front of the "Council of old", a disciplinary authority of movement, for these facts of rapes and decided to exclude it from community without however denouncing the facts with justice. This decision had intervened after, that teenager, the victim that is to say entrusted to a friend also follower of the movement. It is only in 2001 that the victim, then old 25 years, had carried felt sorry for with police station of Bordeaux. Bye
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  US & lack of historical perspective for JWs?

  by rebel8 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  hopefully i can explain what i'm talking about here.. a few yrs after i left the jws, i went to college and spent a semester abroad.

  the combo of studying world history, along with seeing historical stuff in person and exposure to new cultures really led me to realize even deeper how egocentric/ethnocentric the jw belief system is.

  by that, i mean: everything centers around white americans.

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  1. Everything centers around white Americans. The belief system, the HQ, literature, etc. As one poster points out, whites are in the minority worldwide, yet the entire GB is white.

  
  

  They do have their token black GB.

  HCM
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  Ex-Elder Friend Tells Me Why He Thinks Elders Don't Go After Me!

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  according to him, they are "afraid of me".

  when i told him i've heard this before, i asked him why he felt this way.

  he said, "they think you'll go after them legally".

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  Just as well, really, coz I heard he's only got one testicle...

  The other one was bitten off by a rabid sewer rat, it took two days to consume.

  Why don't they go after some and do others? I think not being a loud apostate is the main reason for some elders to just let it ride. The stories that are out there are amazing to hear, most true (fornication and such) and the leave you alone. Past relationships with former fellow elders also may come into play.

  HCM
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  An Invitation to a Wedding

  by lisavegas420 in

  1. social
  2. relationships

  yesterday, i received in the mail a wedding invitation...well not actually a wedding invitation, it was more of a re-newal of vows invitation.

  with me so far...ok, i'm fine with that.

  i even visited her church a few years ago, it was nice, but i don't want to join a church.

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  Every one here is invited to my ahhhhh wedding ,yea that's it, I want to go to the North Pole so instead of a gift bring just cash please.
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  Witnesses dont ask for help (ha ha)

  by buffalosrfree in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  we are visiting down in province and my wife much to my displeasure on her last few visits has been donating money to the building of a new kingdom hall, of course this has been going on for a couple of years.

  well when they found out we had arrived, this elder comes around to visit and it wasnt hi how are you it was "hi i would like to offer you an opportunity to donate once again to our building fund", then he got around to asking how we were doing and were we enjoying our visit.

  what a buch of bull.

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  DAC check this out. Any cong. getting a loan from the WT must adopt these bylaws. HCM

  BY-LAWS of the xxxxxxx CONGREGATION OF

  JEHOVAH’S WITNESSES INC.

  The members of the xxxxxxx Congregation of Jehovah’s Witnesses, xxxxxxx, xxxxxxxxxx, a religious corporation of the State of xxxxxxxxx, at a meeting duly called for the purpose of adopting bylaws for the Corporation on the xxt h day of xxxxx 2005, adopted the following bylaws: These following bylaws will replace all existing bylaws and amended bylaws.

  ARTICLE 1. NAME

  1. The Corporation shall be known as the xxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxxx Congregation of Jehovah’s Witnesses, Inc.

  ARTICLE 2. PURPOSE

  1. To provide a suitable place of meeting and worship for members of the Corporation, to provide for religious services and to foster an educational program for the purpose of assisting the members of the Corporation mentally and morally, and by dissemination of literature in various languages for the purpose of study, and in connection with this purpose to acquire, own and hold real and personal property and to maintain places and buildings for the main purpose of this Corporation.

  2. The property of this Corporation is irrevocably dedicated to religious purposes, and no part of the net earnings or assets of this corporation shall inure to the benefit of a director, officer, or member of the Corporation or any private individual. No substantial part of the activities of this Corporation shall consist of the carrying on of propaganda or otherwise attempting to influence legislation, nor shall this Corporation participate in, or intervene in (including the publishing or distributing of statements), any political campaign on behalf of (or in opposition to) any candidate for public office. This Corporation is organized exclusively for religious purposes within the meaning of Internal Revenue Code Section 501(c)(3). Notwithstanding any other provisions of these Articles, the Corporation shall not carry on any other activities not permitted to be carried on (1) by a corporation exempt from federal income tax under Section 501 (c)(3) of the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 (or the corresponding provision of any future United States tax code) or (2) by a corporation, contributions to which are deductible under Section 170 (c)(2) of the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 (or the corresponding provision of any future United States tax code).

  3. Upon the winding up and dissolution of this Corporation, after paying or adequately providing for debts and obligations of the Corporation, the remaining assets shall be distributed to Watchtower Bible and Tract Society of New York, Inc. No assets will be deemed to be received by Watchtower Bible and Tract Society of New York, Inc., until such acceptance is evidenced in writing. If Watchtower Bible and Tract Society of New York Inc., is not then in existence and exempt under Section 501 (c)(3) of the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 (or the corresponding provision of any future United States tax code), then said assets shall be distributed to any organization designated by the ecclesiastical Governing Body of Jehovah’s Witnesses that is organized and operated for religious purposes and is a corporation exempt from federal income tax under Section 501 (c)(3) of the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 (or the corresponding section of any future United States tax code).

  ARTICLE 3. MEMBERSHIP

  1. Only those persons will be eligible for corporation membership who are fully dedicated to Almighty God Jehovah, baptized as one of Jehovah’s Witnesses and who are completely in harmony with the scripturally sound doctrines and organization instructions set forth by the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society of Pennsylvania, and who report ministerial activity to the xxxxxxx Congregation of Jehovah’s Witnesses, xxxxxxx, xxxxxxxxxxxxx. Anyone meeting these requirements who is of full age shall be designated a member of the Corporation; persons not meeting these requirements shall not be, nor deemed to be, members of this corporation. Any member who moves from the Congregation, becomes inactive in the congregation, disassociates himself from Jehovah’s Witnesses, or is disfellowshipped from the congregation of Jehovah’s Witnesses according to the rules and regulations of the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society of New York, Inc., shall be automatically removed from membership in the Corporation without need of his resignation.

  ARTICLE 4. MEETINGS

  1. The annual meeting of the Corporation shall be held immediately following the regular Service Meeting of the Congregation in xxxx of each year, or if, because of conditions which the congregation has no control, such day is inconvenient, then at a subsequent Service Meeting in May to be designated by the President of which the members shall have at least fifteen (15) days notice; or upon such other day of the week as may be from time to time provided in the bylaws of the Corporation. The Officers shall cause notice of the time and place of the annual meeting to be given to the members. Such notice to be given at the regular Service Meeting on each of the two successive weeks next preceding such meetings, or by posting notice in the congregation’s information board. All meetings of the members shall be held at the Kingdom Hall.

  2. At any regular meeting of the Congregation a special meeting may be called by a majority vote of the members present, or any other times by the President or on request of five members.

  3. Notice of special meeting may be given by announcement at a regular congregation meeting or by posting notice on the congregation’s information board or personally or by mail.

  4. A majority of the members of the Corporation, present at any meeting for which notice has been duly given, shall constitute a quorum for the transaction of all business.

  ARTICLE 5. DUTIES AND POWERS OF OFFICERS AND DIRECTORS

  1. The corporation’s powers shall be exercised and the Corporation’s business shall be directed, conducted, and controlled by 7 members of the Corporation. A President, Vice-President, Treasurer, Secretary and a board of three (3) directors.

  2. The Officers shall have the power to conduct, direct, and control the affairs of the Corporation, to call special meetings of the Officers if the demands of the Corporation make it necessary; to negotiate and enter into contracts and do all necessary acts and things necessary or expedient in carrying out the purposes of the Corporation; to select a bank for depository of the funds of the Corporation; to determine the manner of receiving, depositing, and disbursing the funds of the Corporation and the persons to whom funds may be withdrawn. No major indebtedness, however, shall be incurred without the consent of the majority of the members.

  3. The President and the Secretary are authorized to execute all official instruments for the Corporation by affixing the name and seal of the corporation and signing their names as President and Secretary, respectively.

  4. In exercising any of the powers herein conferred upon the Officers, they shall act in harmony and unity with the Body of Elders of the xxxxxxx Congregation of Jehovah’s Witnesses. xxxxxxx, xxxxxxxxxxx and as directed by the Corporation by vote of its members.

  5. When a vacancy occurs, the remaining Officers shall appoint any qualified member to fill such vacancy until the next annual meeting, at which meeting the vacancy will be filled for the unexpired term by the members.

  6. The Body of Elders of the xxxxxxx Congregation of Jehovah’s Witnesses, xxxxxxx, xxxxxxxxxxxxxx is hereby designated as a nominating committee to submit to the members at the annual meeting the name of names of a nominee for the position of Officer.

  ARTICLE 6.

  1. The President shall preside over all meetings of the Corporation. In his absence, the Vice-President shall preside and perform all the duties and exercise all the powers of the President. However, nothing contained in this article shall prevent the qualified voters at any meeting held pursuant to the bylaws from choosing a person to preside at any meeting other than the person or officer designated in this article to preside thereat, and when such other officer shall be chosen, he shall exercise all the powers in this article conferred upon the presiding officer of such meeting.

  2. The Secretary shall keep a written record of all proceedings of the meeting of the meetings of the members and of the Officers; shall keep the Corporation seal and affix it when necessary; and shall preserve all valuable papers of the Corporation.

  ARTICLE 7.

  1. No funds of the Corporation shall be paid to any Officer or Director as compensation for his services or to cover his personal expenses.

  ARTICLE 8.

  1. These bylaws may be altered or amended at any regular meeting or at any other meeting called for that purpose, by vote representing a majority of all the members of the Corporation.

  At a meeting duly called and held by the Corporation, a majority of the members being present, the forgoing bylaws were adopted by the unanimous vote, on this xx th day of xxxxx 2005.

  ATTEST:

  ___________________________

  xxxxxxxx xxxxxxx, President

  ___________________________

  xxxxxx xxxxxxx, Secretary

  xxxxxxx Congregation of Jehovah’s Witnesses Inc.

  List of Officers and Directors

  As of xxxxx xx, 2005

  President xxxxxx xxxxxx

  Vice-President xxxxxxx xxxxxx

  Secretary xxxxxx xxxxxxx

  Treasurer xxxxxxx xxxxxxx

  Board of Directors xxxxxx xxxxxx

  Xxxxxx xxxxxxx

  Xxxxxxxx xxxxxx
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  Very Very sad. Typical Jdub Love

  by Ticker in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i wanted to share this recent incident and it really pi$$es me off.

  i called my grandfather yesterday who is a believing but inactive jw due to health reasons.

  he is 83 and in very poor health and is alone since his wife died 3 years ago.

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  All eyes are on the Witnesses, so they think. Reproach on Jehovah if you sin they cry. We are the example to the world for true worship they believe. Etc. etc. etc.

  The stage is set they are all phony actors, true Thespians only they don’t know it.

  HCM
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  Open Speculation - Where is Minimus?

  by Crumpet in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  minimus does not appear to have posted for at least 5 hours!

  anybody any ideas or like to speculate as to what could have taken our little red rotund rebel?.

  i'm betting on alien abduction!

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  Maybe he's with Baal, and has an excrement ... somebody needs more fiber!
  

  Kwin

  
  

  
  That's it, that's it! he has excrement. Minimus do you have excrement on your ...

  HCM

  PS; around 10:00 am EST he will see this I just E-mailed it to him. hahahahahahahahahahahahah
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  Top 5 Things to do If Your C.O. is a Jerk

  by metatron in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  number 5.

  'forget' to announce his visit - or totally downplay it.

  ( this really gets 'em mad but i know some.

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  Seeker4

  Yes Wade Payne was a large asshole, aka Big-Jaw. His old lady was a sweet tall blond and I think horny. Maybe she got smart and left his sorry ass.

  HCM