jeff started a thread today which got me thinking.
many ppl here say they were hunted down by the elders, with the intent of having them dfd.
now if you are a ex elder, did you ever do that??.
I believe most were similar to me, if you liked the person and they played "the game" and got along well without stirring the pot more would be kept quiet. If they were just annoying pains in the ass or disliked for any reason there ass was grass and the elders would be the lawn mower.
It was just a matter of opinion with a hint of skewed scripture thrown in for emphasis that really gave people the shaft.
HCM
my ccw instructor was not very encouraging about 3rd party defense by a ccw holder.
he said that it was not only risky because too often you (the ccw holder) don't know the whole story and you could make a big mistake.
in addition, there's the risk that you could act in defense of a stranger, only to find out the stranger is horrified by you having a gun, and could say something to the cops that screws you over (even if you've acted within the bounds of the law).. given that the society's published attitude about guns as defense, is that christians "reject magic and weapons as tools of protection," how willing would you be to act in defense of a jw that a) you didn't know [you saw them being attacked on the street] or b) you did know?
If your ever in a position to draw your firearm and took the time to determine who was a JW, it would most likely be over before you knew it.
HCM
as most informed jehovah's witnesses know, the wtbts is very good at painting a pretty picture of themselves by cleverly wording things to outsiders, yet not revealing the specifics of their beliefs.. below is an example from their official website regarding whether or not they shun members who choose to leave them.
they do not tell the public of the interogation they impose on members who wish to quietly leave ( fade ).. notice they mention how they are more than happy to restore those who exit, but fail to mention the types of questions they ask to those who leave them.. while they admit they shun those who verbally express they no longer wish to be a jehovahs witness, they do not tell the public they coerce that very statement from those who try to leave peacefully and quietly.
quote: .
I use shunning tactics on deceitful nutsacks.
HCM
as a teenager, what was your favorite band?
this band can be a local, main stream etc..... my favorite local band was little blue crunchy things, they were from milwaukee, wi.
(even hung out with them)!
my parents told me that the do has advised the cong that it's going to close due to there not being enough publishers in it (why didn't he just say people .
it is a very small cong with about 35 people in it but they have enough elders and everyone was happy being in it.
apart from being dubs they actually are a genuinely nice bunch of people and i feel a bit sorry for them having to get split up against their wishes.. the hall is split into two congs, with the other half having about 140 publishers, and i asked why they didn't just ask some from the other half to support theirs.
Not sure if they specifically told the org about the reasons for the split or if they just said they felt the cong was getting too large.
Nothing happens in a congregation split without the Org. knowing about it.
HCM
this one really freaked me out.
i was so brainwashed at the time i found a way to justify it.
i think i?ve been repressing my anger about this and now i need to vent.
I have some of the same weird memories. It all trickles down from the top the attitude of ice and mind control.
Remember the big Kahona would be upset if the meeting were disrupted. This is truly embarrassing to remember.
HCM
when i was a witness, i was told that a responsible witness purchased a car that was able to be used in field service.
as an example, it would have four doors to allow easy entry for a car group of 4 to 6 people.
it was something that was not to showy, meaning it was not a lexus or something that would make it seem that witnesses were materialistic, especially when working a poor part of the community.
I had an "unapproved" new two door five seat SUV with a snow plow and plowed the KH for five years for free ZIP-NADA. The previous witless plowed and was given repair money whenever his truck broke down, it was ten years old.
One day in service it was below zero*f and snowing. I got a complaint from a women getting back into the back-seat that the truck was to high with only two doors and it was a bad example for an elder to have such a vehicle. I quickly told her that no one complained when I plowed the parking lot at the Hall. She shut up.
It was my last season ever to do anything at that miserable place.
HCM
is the watchtower organization filled with child molesters?
maybe not - but the cano incident should make us think about an allied problem,.
namely, general corruption and rot.. many years ago, it was not unknown to find strange photos and other materials in a bethel brother's room, after he died unexpectedly.. that doesn't prove that there is a massive problem with child molestation.
How many child molesters are hiding in the organization? How many adulterers? How many homosexuals? How many scam artists? How many thieves? How many porn addicted elders? How many ........ ( fill in the blank).
The WT has always condemned these things and is apparently full of them.
The same can be said for every person in a religious capacity that gets caught doing wrong. Hell, the Catholic Church is not known to be a pedophile organization. They are still strong. The "bad" priests were just disciplined or booted. They have rebounded pretty well,imo. When the BTK killer did his thing, his church affiliation was not the big deal. His church did not get hurt. It is understood that there can be bad apples anywhere.
Min, The Catholic Church is at least making an attempt to apologies. The BTK killer? Was he living in his religious housing when he committed the crimes?
HCM
i am not even sure why i am posting because its so personal but i could really use some advice.
i am also embarrassed that i got myself in this situation.
there is this guy that i have known for a couple of years.
unbeliever;
I care for him a great deal but I am not in love with him.
This is your answer stay home.
HCM
i'm closer to my mom than ever before.
but all the other witness family stays away.
Hey min 
A gift for you.
HCM
She is a friend of mine,
