I have to make one of the toughest decisions of my life

by unbeliever 62 Replies latest jw friends

  • unbeliever
    unbeliever

    I am not even sure why I am posting because its so personal but I could really use some advice. I am also embarrassed that I got myself in this situation. There is this guy that I have known for a couple of years. He lives in the UK and when he comes to town on business we usually get together. Our relationship had always been no strings attached, no commitment, etc. On his last visit I accidently got pregnant. I agonized for weeks on what I should do and even made an appointment for an abortion but ultimately I could not go through with it and decided to keep the baby. Here is the decision I have to make. I know parents are supposed to make sacrifices for their children and all but I am not sure how big of a sacrifice I should make.

    The baby's father wants to be involved and that is a huge relief to me because I don't want to raise the child on my own. Here is the thing though we live in different countries. He is in his late 30's and I know has always wanted children. He says this is a sign we should be together and he is putting a tremendous amount of pressure on me to marry him and move to the UK. I care for him a great deal but I am not in love with him. I know his feelings for me are deeper for me that mine are for him but I don't think he loves me. Also I will not have any family there and very few friends. My career is going really well and if I moved to the UK it would really set me back. I have done a pro con list and the only pro I can come up with is that my child will have a father full time and I would not have to raise him or her by myself. I really don't have a clue about raising kids. I think I would be miserable though in the UK.

    It's just not feasible for him to move to the US full time. He says he will do almost anything for me to move there. I shot down the idea of marriage real quick. He says he will support me and I would not have to worry about money and that he can help me with my career. I just feel trapped. It's like why do I have to be the one to make such huge changes? He told me to try living there for a year. If I did not like it come back. I know legally because of the baby he could keep me in the UK for a good long while. He says now that he would let me go back but I am not sure he would still feel the same way a year later. You know I might not even be able to live much less work in the UK. He says he will have a lawyer take care of everything. I know its not that simple.

    Here in the US I have a strong support network, and my career. I would have no problem supporting the baby. On the other hand I would be more than likely doing it by myself the majority of the time and that prospect scares me to death. If I live in the UK I could marry this guy, be a stay at home mom or have a career (but be set back a couple of years) and most importantly the child have 2 parents. It would be so much easier if I loved this guy but I just don't.

    Am I being horribly selfish wanting to stay in the US? Am I putting my needs before the childs? He says that I am being selfish and that it sounds like I am only concerned about my career. It was so unfair of him to say that. I told him to move to the US and we could split 50/50 custody but he said in the long term it would be a disaster for him. He's right it would be. It would be really hard to run his business from the US. He thinks because he is already established there it would just be plain stupid to move to the US. Since I am just starting out well no big sacrifice for me especially since he is willing to marry me and support me. How noble of him. What would you do in my position? I am in agony over this and don't know what to do.

  • under_believer
    under_believer

    Hello, person whose name I appear to have aped but who has much more seniority than me.
    I am nobody and my opinion counts for nothing. Nevertheless I offer it. Take it for what it is, a worthless opinion. Your mileage may vary.
    In simple terms, RUN LIKE HELL. This individual is very controlling and is attempting to dominate and control you. You have an established career and support network. This person is trying to completly rip all of that out from underneath you and make you completely dependent on him. If you accept his offer and give into his high-pressure tactics, you will be completely at his mercy and totally under his control in every way.
    Maybe he's a nice guy, but the way you say he's treating you leads me to believe that he's not. Nice guys don't demand that women become totally dependent on them and leave everything they have ever known. I could be wrong, but it just feels off, to me.
    Right now the ball, quite literally, is in your court. You are under no legal or moral obligation to have this fellow in your life. I suggest you use this to your advantage and set the terms yourself. Don't give up everything you have worked so hard to establish--your baby will be better off with a happy if busy mother and NO father, than with a desolated mother and an overly controlling father.
    Again, it's just my worthless opinion. Please consider all avenues yourself before deciding.

  • Joe Grundy
    Joe Grundy

    I may not be the best one to offer advice. I'm a 50 year old man. But I do have some life experience and a daughter a few years younger than you, so I can visualise your situation as if it applied to her.

    I would not consider marriage, or uprooting your whole life. You say you have a career, a good network of support, etc. where you are. You will be a better parent if you are happy and supported, even as a single parent (and there's not much stigma to that nowadays - in many places (including parts of the UK) it's almost the norm).

    A loveless marriage may well bring you down, with the resulting effect on your child. There is a balance between making a sacrifice for your child and doing what's best for you as a person.

    You say it's been a 'no commitments' relationship, and pregnancy doesn't automatically change that. He has commitments in terms of child support and obviously some sort of 'access' rights, but that is, IMHO, no basis for a marriage.

    If you married him and moved to UK, there is a distinct possibilty of legal complications and restrictions (e.g. if you separated you may have to get court permission to take the child out of the jurisdiction of the England and Wales courts). You would find life in the UK very different to life in Nevada (not necessarily better or worse, just different) and dealing with that could be difficult enough without having to look after a (first) new baby.

    Try closing your eyes and visualising youself, your baby and your life in 5, 10, 15 years time. Do you see your future with this man? (I suspect you already know the answer to this.)

    You MUST consider your own happiness, because that will reflect on your relationship with your child.

    Good luck and best wishes whatever you decide.

  • Sirona
    Sirona

    If it was me, I would not move.

    Try telling him that you won't move. I bet you he starts saying things like he already has...."You are selfish....you are thinking of yourself and your career......" etc etc.

    Him saying those things prove that he only wants what HE wants and is NOT considering your happiness.

    Also, if you declare you are not moving, does he still want a relationship with you? I'm guessing probably not, and he might even give up opportunity to see the child....

    Sirona

  • ballistic
    ballistic

    Regardless of where he lives, it sounds like you don't love the guy. What's the point of moving for someone you don't love?

  • Why Georgia
    Why Georgia

    Hi Sweetie,

    First congratulations! Babies are wonderful!

    Here is my advice as a child of divorce. Do not get married and do not move to the UK. If you don't love him and you don't think you'll be happy don't do it. You'll just get more misery than you, he or the new baby deserve. I think children would rather have 2 happy parents a part than 2 miserable parents together.

    When the baby comes you will need the love and support of your family and friends.

    I moved from California to Massachusetts and I am 3500 miles away from my support system and have had 2 lovely boys. It's been harder than it ever had to be if we had stayed where I grew up. But this was a better place for my husband to earn $$$$. I have made friends, but its not the same as having my family.

    You need people who will come running at the drop of a hat when you need them.

    Also, go to an Attorney now. This guy is being nice now...but what about when you don't do what he wants. Get a child support order and his paternity established. Start thinking about if you want him with you when you have the baby. Start thinking about how you will feel when he takes your child off to the UK without you for visitation. Also you may want to make sure your company has no morals clauses. Here in Massachusetts they have been firing unmarried men and women when they or their spouses get pregnant, because the person signed a morals clause. Go to an Attorney.

    Best of luck to you. Big hugs,

    Chrystal

  • Joe Grundy
    Joe Grundy

    " Here in Massachusetts they have been firing unmarried men and women when they or their spouses get pregnant, because the person signed a morals clause. "

    Wow! Here in the UK, as I understand it, it is not lawful to ask any job applicant (male or female) whether or not they have children or are pregnant, or their marital status. No 'morals' contract would stand up under UK law. Compensation for contravention is unlimited.

  • Why Georgia
    Why Georgia

    We have a lot of religious institutions that hire people here in the Commonwealth of Taxachusetts....and apparently they can legally fire people if they break the morals clause they have signed.

    We just had the high school football coach at our local Catholic school terminated because he got his girlfriend pregnant.

    But if you don't work for a religious institution, or a company that makes you sign one of these wacky codes of conduct...you should be fine.

    Usually, if they have a problem with pregnancy EDD will see a pattern and come in and scare the snot of the company.

    Best Regards,

    Chrystal

  • lowden
    lowden

    Unbeliever

    The title of your thread is true.

    As a parent of 3 teenage boys i have experience of parenting and find myself agreeing with the central tenet of the above posters, although under_believer sounds a little cynical. I admire you greatly for not going through with an abortion and feel you have guts to go forward as a single mother. I was given up for adoption by my mother and i feel that your child will love you more than you could ever understand when you tell them the story surrounding their upbringing. If you don't love the guy and can't see yourself with him, then you know you've got to stay put. Don't EVER give in to emotional blackmail, the fruit will be bitter. My heart really does go out to you.

    Peace and much love and understanding to you.

    Lowden

  • KW13
    KW13

    Your best off where you are now.

    If you are gonna be looking after a baby you need to be happy, a career means money and your going to need that to support any size family.

    Moving to the UK isn't a good idea, if your over there and it doesn't work out you just ruined a lot of things for no reason and then your stuck.

    Stay where you are, he can move over there at whatever point if it means a lot to him.

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