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Jesus Is Jehovah/Jehovah Is Jesus

by snowbird in

http://www.str.org/site/news2?page=newsarticle&id=5725.

i fought against this with all my wts-trained power, but truth prevailed.. any way you cut it, it comes out the same.. peace and strength in your search.. sylvia.

possible-san

Hi, Leolaia.

Explanation which you gave was done by many people from former times repeatedly, in order to prove that "Jehovah is Jesus."
But that kind of view has been thoroughly refuted by Jehovah's Witnesses.

*** pe chap. 4 p. 39 par. 15 God—Who Is He? ***
If Jesus were the Almighty God, he would not have prayed to himself, would he?
In fact, following Jesus’ death, the Scripture says: “This Jesus God resurrected.” (Acts 2:32)
Thus the Almighty God and Jesus are clearly two separate persons.

The above-mentioned explanation is applied also to Romans 10:9.
The Apostle Paul has described it as "God raised him up from the dead" clearly.
http://www.watchtower.org/e/bible/ro/chapter_010.htm#bk9

This view "Jehovah is Jesus" proves that what the Governing Body says is right.
And that is just as they expect.

Continuing having the mistaken view puffs up Jehovah's Witnesses.

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Jesus Is Jehovah/Jehovah Is Jesus

by snowbird in

http://www.str.org/site/news2?page=newsarticle&id=5725.

i fought against this with all my wts-trained power, but truth prevailed.. any way you cut it, it comes out the same.. peace and strength in your search.. sylvia.

possible-san

Although I think that people have the freedom of believing what they choose anything, the fact is not "Jehovah is Jesus."
And this view is not related to teaching of the "Trinity."

Although I think that this material is interesting, Jehovah (the Father) and Christ (the Son) are two separate persons .
http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/12/164232/3042544/post.ashx#3042544 It is the same also in the dogma of the Trinity . The governing body of JW teaches followers a lie with this point.

I stated as mentioned above.

Probably, when you think "Jehovah is Jesus", the understanding about the Trinity of the governing body of Jehovah's Witnesses will be right.
And if Jehovah's Witnesses meet people who think "Jehovah is Jesus", they are glad and will defeat those mistaken views completely.

The meaning of "Jesus is Jehovah" is clearly different from the meaning "Jesus is God."

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Scan of 1984 Watchtower needed

by jwfacts in

does anyone have a scan of the may 15, 1984 watchtower.

i only need from the cover and inside pages to page 7. thanks

possible-san

Thank you, fokyc.

I downloaded this file.
This is scanned very finely.

This is proving that the Watch Tower society is a liar.
Many people including me were deceived by this explanation.

Any and every, this is full of nonsense.
It is ... like other false prophesy.
http://godpresencewithin.web.fc2.com/pages/jw/prophets.html

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328

Jesus Is Jehovah/Jehovah Is Jesus

by snowbird in

http://www.str.org/site/news2?page=newsarticle&id=5725.

i fought against this with all my wts-trained power, but truth prevailed.. any way you cut it, it comes out the same.. peace and strength in your search.. sylvia.

possible-san

Hi, snowbird.

http://www.str.org/site/News2?page=NewsArticle&id=5725

Although I think that this material is interesting, Jehovah (the Father) and Christ (the Son) are two separate persons.
http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/12/164232/3042544/post.ashx#3042544

It is the same also in the dogma of the Trinity.The governing body of JW teaches followers a lie with this point.

However, in a symbolic meaning, Jesus means "I AM."

I think it wrong to interpret the Scriptures literally.
For me, Jesus is also a "symbol."

If you receive the Scriptures literally, you have to admit that Jehovah and Jesus are two separate persons.
Although I say once again, also in the Trinity theory, Jehovah and Jesus are two separate persons.

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22

What Scholar said this?

by Cynisister in

in the dec. 15, 08 wt (i just scan the mags that my still "loyal" hubby brings home from the kh to see if there's any "new light') a supposed scholar is quoted in par.

6 of page 17 as saying in regard to acts 20:20: "paul had spent three years in ephesus.

he visited every house, or at least he preached to all of the people.

possible-san

Hi, Earnest.

I appreciate your view.

Although I may be able to agree with your opinion, I feel that your view is so narrow and rigid.
We are not merely discussing the definition of an English word.

"Sincerity" (Honesty) is a issue of the heart.
Therefore, our heart feels that a certain person is "not sincere."
And we express by means of a word then, saying "That person is not sincere."

Only the person who quotes by disregarding the context is not expressed as "an insincere person."

I have already explained clearly the reason which I feel that "they are insincere (dishonest)."
Therefore, probably you will not know even the name of the author of that book, without the Internet.

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What Scholar said this?

by Cynisister in

in the dec. 15, 08 wt (i just scan the mags that my still "loyal" hubby brings home from the kh to see if there's any "new light') a supposed scholar is quoted in par.

6 of page 17 as saying in regard to acts 20:20: "paul had spent three years in ephesus.

he visited every house, or at least he preached to all of the people.

possible-san

The substance of the organization of Jehovah's Witnesses is a publishing company which thinks "sales (work outside, field) are so important."

It is a swindle company which looks like a religious group.
It is their means (measure) for deceiving people skillfully that they use the Scriptures.

In the evidence, Rutherford lived in the palatial residence at the period of Great Depression,
and he owned two super-luxury cars, and every day he drank alcoholic drinks.

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an old thread but does anyone know the answer?

by still wondering in

"who out there has that quote from the wt about how since the catholic church claims to be the way of salvation for millions of people that they should be ready to, essentially, debate the issue, defend their position?

if it's right for the catholic church, then it's even more right for the wtb&ts, who claims to speak directly for god!

"

possible-san

*** g84 8/22 p. 28 From Our Readers ***

We surely were not trying to take cheap shots at the pope or the Catholic Church, nor were we criticizing Catholics.
The Catholic Church occupies a very significant position in the world and claims to be the way of salvation for hundreds of millions of people.
Any organization that assumes that position should be willing to submit to scrutiny and criticism. All who criticize have the obligation to be truthful in presenting the facts and fair and objective in assessing such.
In both respects we try to live up to that obligation.—ED.

We are thankful if you "start a new line."

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What Scholar said this?

by Cynisister in

in the dec. 15, 08 wt (i just scan the mags that my still "loyal" hubby brings home from the kh to see if there's any "new light') a supposed scholar is quoted in par.

6 of page 17 as saying in regard to acts 20:20: "paul had spent three years in ephesus.

he visited every house, or at least he preached to all of the people.

possible-san

Hi, Earnest.

Since I do not speak English, telling correctly in English is difficult for me.
The meaning of the word "dishonest" is "not honest."
Or it means "insincere."
In Japanese, it is called "seijitsu dewa nai (fuseijitsu)."
"Sincerity"(seijitsu) is not merely a meaning of "the person who does not tell a lie."

The "dishonesty"(insincere) of theirs appears enough in their having hidden the author's name of the book and the title.
And it is their usual act.

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What Scholar said this?

by Cynisister in

in the dec. 15, 08 wt (i just scan the mags that my still "loyal" hubby brings home from the kh to see if there's any "new light') a supposed scholar is quoted in par.

6 of page 17 as saying in regard to acts 20:20: "paul had spent three years in ephesus.

he visited every house, or at least he preached to all of the people.

possible-san

Hi, Cynisister.

and very dishonest.

Yeah.
They are "dishonest."
So, they always do not clarify information, including the author's name, the title, the publishing company's name, the year that published the first edition, the number of pages, etc.

They always get information from Christendom.
Therefore, they cannot make the information source clear to their followers.

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Merry Christmas from the Watch Tower & Golden Age!

by cabasilas in

here are scans of several pages from the watch tower and golden age magazines (1908-1926) for christmas.

these, of course, are from when the jws celebrated christmas and are very pro-christmas.

the file, about 4.5 mb, can be downloaded from:.

possible-san

Hi, cabasilas.

Thank you for offering valuable materials for us.

"Whether or not the date is correct is of small importance, but the event was and is of the greatest importance."

(The Golden Age, December 24, 1919. p. 215)

It has written as mentioned above.

It is quite "honest" that they have said.
I think that the current Watch Tower society deteriorated rather than progressed.

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