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  A reminder for JW parents, including me and mine.

  by Black Sheep in

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  2. child-abuse

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvjscga5vbc.

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  verystupid77

  How sad that is what a lot of us raised in the truth could say. How sad.
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  There is no good reason to leave

  by verystupid77 in

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  2. scandals

  i have been thinking of this all night.

  have you ever tired to tell on of the witnesses that you are happier and doing better outside of the truth?.

  no matter what you say it is never a good reason to leave.

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  verystupid77

  I have been thinking of this all night. Have you ever tired to tell on of the witnesses that you are happier and doing better outside of the truth?

  No matter what you say it is never a good reason to leave. It just reminded me of Releasing the Bonds by Steve Hassan. On page 52 he says "from the point of view of a mind control cult there is never a legitimate reason to leave. The only people who leave are weak, selfish, or cannot control their need for sex, drugs, or other addictive substances. In the mindset of the group, people who leave are incapable of sacrificing or transcending spiritually."

  I just had a conversation trying to explain that I was so much happier outside and that is the just of what I was told in a nutshell.

  Reniaa will have her two cents to say about this but whatever she say just proves my point I think.

  No wonder all the depressin in side the cult people really feel traped. Any comments on this?
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  Bethel and Prisons using slave labor for profit!

  by Witness 007 in

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  2. scandals

  behtel has workers who are paid basically nothing!

  a small "re-inbursment" for expenses.

  prison is the same...making license plates for $2 dollars an hour....mc donalds resturants are not far behind.

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  Ray Franz touched on this in his book COC. I was at Bethel myself and I felt so privileged to be there now looking back it was so stupid. The more I know the more amazed I am at how I could not see it for what it is.

  I heard myself that when they lifted the 4 year requirement at Bethel they all cheered and said yeah we are finally out of prison it went right along with Ray's book.
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  How many lives have been RUINED by the Organization? Experiences?

  by BonaFide in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i think that some people deserve to be excommunicated, such as pedophiles.

  but what about the tens of thousands of others that have their life wrenched out from under them by being disfellowshipped?.

  and what about those that have a family member that died because of not receiving a blood transfusion?

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  I do not know if I can say my life was ruined by the cult but it has been hell in so many ways. I truly can say that I do not feel I have ever been happy in my life. I have had major depression most of my life in this happy religion. Somehow that does not make sense. Nonthing is ever enough or good enough or you need to pray more study more go out in service more, more more more never enough. That is a cult per and simple. There have been many, many times in my life where I just wish I could take something to sleep for ever and never wake up.

  I think how happy the people I see outside of this religon are and then I look inside at all the depressioned ones on meds and just cannot help but see that this is all so wrong. Why cannot everyone just wakeup.

  Just look at the pedophiles in this religon. They are hidden they clearly are hidden. The WT hates the RCC but they are in no place to throw stones. I sometimes feel so traped, I just hate what this religon cult has done to ruin peoples lives.
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  Wacked-out elder comments

  by sir82 in

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  2. friends

  we've got an elder who looks to be at the edge of a nervous breakdown.

  i didn't hear them say it was close.. [pause].

  brothers..... [pause].

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  [Lowering of voice by a full octave]...IMMINENT!"

  Oh man, you just can't make this stuff up!

  I loved that remark, I was laughing so hard you just cannot make this up.

  I went for the first time to the meeting last night in four months. OH MY WORD it was unreal. I heard that to about the convection too the system is so close that they can not even say how close it was. That this convection will go down as one of the greatest there ever was like the 1922 advertise advertise advertise convection.

  Oh my word was the meeting ever strange. Field service, field service, field service. It was like do not work over time because you could use the time in field service. What would you do with a three day weekend go camping and enjoy the family, wrong answer. Field service. What would you do if you retired play golf wrong answer field service.

  I was like you have got to be kidding me but everyone was just sitting there soaking it all up. OH MY WORD

  By the way if you can look up the word imminent in on the WT CD ROM and they were using that word back in 1955
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  did you find JW's expected products/services for free from other JW's?

  by highdose in

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  just wondering if i'm the only one whose experianced this?.

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  Thanks isaacaustin, I have just always felt so put down in the "truth" never felt good enough, could never make any friends. Never no matter how hard I tried. Elders do not even get me started. I always put my self down for that. Blamed myself. I have even been married to an elder myself for 22 years and still the other elders avoid me like the plague. Funny they will come to my home for dinner and when we invite them out to eat and we pay or out to the lake ect but never would they even consider letting me step foot in their homes. I just feel stupid so much of the time. It is like I am not good enough for them. And that is how I came up with the name. All of this is just so hurtful and verystupid
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  Did You Feel The Love As A Jehovah's Witness?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  other than feeling "love bombed" when you first started associating with the "brotherhood", did you experience the "love" in your years within the organization?.

  if you felt truly loved, was it in reality, a "conditional love"?.

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  verystupid77

  Thanks Mouthy
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  did you find JW's expected products/services for free from other JW's?

  by highdose in

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  just wondering if i'm the only one whose experianced this?.

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  Yes they want work done for free, but when it is come to these same people doing things for others then they want to be paid top wage. I could never make sense of the lack of love.
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  Did You Feel The Love As A Jehovah's Witness?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  other than feeling "love bombed" when you first started associating with the "brotherhood", did you experience the "love" in your years within the organization?.

  if you felt truly loved, was it in reality, a "conditional love"?.

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  I was raised in one hall and was in it for 24 years, no love, married an elder and was in another hall for 4 years really no love, in another hall for 2 years no love back to the first hall I was raised in and still no love, move to current hall been here for 6 years and yep you guessed it even less love then all the other halls put together. Hubby who was an elder had an heart attack and the let me drive him to the hospital alone talk about love. These are the most hateful people I know of.
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  what do you think of my GREAT grand

  by mouthy in

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  verystupid77

  What a cutie. Have a great week together.