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  Oct. 22nd Zone Meeting: Here's some facts and figures presented to ticketed-only audiences

  by AndersonsInfo in

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  if we weren't invited, this is the "bragging" information we missed last saturday, oct. 22, 2011, at the zone meeting with tie-in from patterson, ny .

  59 locations tied-in plus spanish.

  anticipating 258,000 attendance from tickets given out.

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  Some info on the society- but no mention of the 60,000 sq ft gym for all sports??? I believe its at Walkill
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  $10 M NEW Assembly Hall in South Carolina

  by truthlover in

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  does anyone know if regular kh were sold with monies sent to the society in the area as well as in other close states?.

  did the elders ask for pubs to donate towards the building of this new assembly hall and is it to be used for weekly meetings?

  i note it is to be used for 40 2- day assemblies per year but throughout the week would it stand vacant or be used by congregation meetings?.

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  Does anyone know if regular KH were sold with monies sent to the society in the area as well as in other close states?

  Did the elders ask for pubs to donate towards the building of this new assembly hall and is it to be used for weekly meetings? I note it is to be used for 40 2- day assemblies per year but throughout the week would it stand vacant or be used by congregation meetings?

  I would assume also that there will be a donation arrangement made by way of the quick cash banking machines directly in the front entrance???

  If the regular KH were sold off, that would demand the publishers would have to start driving longer distances to get to a meeting...and this with the price of gas going through the roof, which is why they stopped the home bible studies, eh!

  They are saying it would bring in revenues of 264 million in 5 years with average of the 160,000 visitors per year each spending $66.00 per day?? Where will they eat if a two day - they would be bringing their own food and drink mostly, may go out for one meal, so no taxes appreciating from that source... says they will will bring in new const jobs and long term sustainable jobs prior to being built... Well, who built it -- volunteers from the org! so no real worldly contractor had a chance to make any money, other than lumber and some materials.

  I could go on but I was really interested in knowing if there was a massive sell off of KH in SC, NC, etc?

  Thanks
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  We are in for a blizzard!

  by coffee_black in

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  the winter storm watch has just been upgraded to a blizzard watch.

  from where i sit, just outside of boston, it looks like up to 2 feet of snow from friday to saturday with high winds that will make travel very difficult if not impossible.. .

  coffee .

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  Heading up to the Atlantic Provinces of Canada.. fill up those bath tubs with water and get out the candles and propane everyone!! Get ready for BBQ's in the snow

  Anyone got the old time perk coffee makers that you can use on the propane BBQ's or stoves?? --

  TL
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  The Borg "our mother"? Good Grief!

  by Roberta804 in

  1. watchtower
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  i have heard it all now, or at least up to now, the borg never ceases to surprise me.

  so when jesus was talking to his deciple from the cross (opps stake), "this is your mother" or something like that, was he talking about the borg?

  lol.

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  Inference was made at the DC this summer -- I never really got the answer to the question, but there is a search you can do on this board - type in Who is the mother? and Blondie has laid out some of the quotes used by the WTBTS before - goes back to Fred Franz time then seemed to disappear, now it is re-appearing and still does not make sense to me - Jesus has his wife of 144,000 but this "mother" is spoken of as Jehovahs.... so there has to be a difference although the society is making the mother the 144,000 and we are to be loyal to "her"...

  TL
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  How Can I Kindly Kick Weak And Unproductive Publishers Out Of My Kingdom Hall?

  by AuntConnie in

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  unproductive kingdom proclaimers won't leave my kingdom hall, how do i rid our hall of these vultures or turkeys?.

  "you can't fly like the eagles if you hang out with turkeys".

  after visiting your site, i decided to allow one of the spiritual weak individuals into my car group, it was not easy but you have made valid points i find very self condemning.

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  Why did you listen to people here? That must be a joke... you came on the board, you don't have to do anything but each word you write gives us more information that indicates you must be on Prozac.... so her daughter is dressing down and has a Iphone, what has that to do with you? Your responsibility is to be nice! Three richest ladies... what a smug, self opinionated person you are, and if true, very materialistic..and to call her daughter a slut?? Hummmm -

  Just shut up and drive! Say, nice to work with you and go home and make supper for your mate!

  I can just see you standing before "the throne" and giving excuses for your actions. People in the "world" are not as ignorant as you are in the "truth".

  --"" us apostates"", well you are here, you apostate and still going out in service?
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  I'm so offended by what happened today at the KIngdom Hall!!

  by Vienna Angelika in

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  so today we were late for the meeting as usual.

  this is because i take a really bad medication where i literally cannot function in the first part of the day but without it i am even worse.

  we got there near the end of the talk and it was in my opinion very anoying.

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  VA:

  If you want to go to the meetings, do so and don't leave if you are tired. There are many brothers and some sisters who do go to sleep and no-one really cares. You should go to an elder your trust and inform him of your health, and although you probably won't get anywhere, at least, the word is out that you are not well and need the rest. I too, have felt sleepy due to my health and nodded off, it's good you are making the effort to just be there, let alone be scrutinized for it!

  As far as the mother of your friend, she is one of those righteous ones and can't see anything unless its pointing fingers at people who dont live up to her standards.. don't sweat this stuff, they are always there, YOU do what is best for YOUR health, remember Jesus was tired too, its just a human condition....
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  Are Jehovah's Witnesses a hierarchical religion? And does it matter?

  by cedars in

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  2. beliefs

  this is the title of my latest article, which is available on the link below.... http://jwsurvey.org/cedars-blog/are-jehovahs-witnesses-a-hierarchical-religion-and-does-it-matter.

  inspired by the illustration in the april 15th watchtower (above), i thought it would be worthwhile to further explore this facet of the society for two reasons.... because the society has spent decades criticizing the catholic church for being hierarchical, andbecause the society has recently become more open about its hierarchical nature than ever before.below is a diagram i have prepared which shows the organizational similarities that watch tower society now shares with the catholic church.... .

  until recently, the governing body could place the "faithful slave" above it at the top of the pyramid, but as of october 5th this fuzzy doctrine was scrapped - thus removing the final distinguishing factor between the governing body and popedom.. as always, i would be interested in your thoughts.... .

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  yes, most definitely - and their legal eagle in the Candace Conti case said so!!

  Also, in the August 15, 2012 WT on page 31 there is a background picture of the pyramidology chart -- seems like they are slowly instilling the pict in your mind... then the "explanation" will come
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  Pedos - Hardwired?

  by Satanus in

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  from the various readings about the subject, it occured to me that pedophilia could very well be hardwired, as are homosexuality and heterosexuality.

  that's not to say that it can be legitimized, like the other 2 sexualities.

  it does mean though, that a different approach needs to be taken as soon as pedo proclivity shows itself.

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  In our area, a pervert/pedophile was released, he took residence across the street from elementary school, the police told the school principal but nothing was told to the parents and right now, there is hell to pay and a lot of questions being asked

  Why aren't these guys wearing GPS systems, even if they have done their time? If they refuse to be re habilitated, are chronic offenders and the inmates have not been able to "sway" the offender, they should be tracked forever - but then it all costs money, doesn't it? Excuses, excuses - there are some big islands off the coast, why not quarantine them to there and they can molest each other and leave kids alone - only have a boat deliver food/goods every two weeks, just a dream!

  They cannot be "fixed" their brain is wired and NEVER should they be a part of general population again.
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  Talesin - R U Still Here?

  by truthlover in

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  havent seen you post recently - enjoy them are you not well?.

  anybody know.

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  truthlover

  havent seen you post recently - enjoy them are you not well?

  anybody know
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  Publishers Need A Background Check Before Moving To My Kingdom Hall.

  by AuntConnie in

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  background check first.. .

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  truthlover

  I can speak to the selecting of who or who cannot attend a party. There is a marking process being used and rather than encouraging those who are not making their time or are sick/have a illness, or longterm nerve problems they are neglected and build animosity, yet still trying to hold on as they believe -rightly or wrongly - that this is Jehovahs organization and they have to make it to live.

  There are many disappointments in life, and you choose to accept or reject them AC... the language you used initially was not appropriate for one who is in the "truth"... if you are for real your anger is most aggressive.. back off and let us know what the truth of your situation is..

  I also too know of those in various baptized ones who do travel from cong to cong and "use" the sisters and brothers to get what they need, keep a smile on their face and suck the life out of people, then move to the next and repeat, never growing spiritually, people just accept them and shrug their shoulders.... but once bitten, twice shy -- you learn to spot them and you smile back and keep on trucking.... that's life --keep your money in your wallett and furniture in the house..... you just do not expect it from your spiritual family... unfortunately that is not going to change.. people are gullible and mostly want to help where they can.. it's a DNA thing..