Never DF'd or DA'd, although at this point it might be kind of fun to face the elders. Certainly not 10 years ago when I quit, but now knowing what I do I would almost welcome a meeting.
Posts by Hojon
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14When and Where D'fed or such....
by StifflersErSlayersBrother ina while back there was a post on when/where baptised... i thought i'd do the complete opposite :).
as for me.... sometime in the near future maybe
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VietNam Era
by Tina inreading country joe's posts got me thinkingabout the vietnam war era folks here.. what were you doing at that time?.
as jw's and non-jw's,what were your feelings about the war?.
are you a vet or child of one?.
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Hojon
Oh yeah, I wasn't criticizing it at all. I just think it's interesting from a mental standpoint that they basically put you in a "kill or be killed" situation and then when it's over they put you back in "normal" society here at home and expect you to forget about what you were just doing.
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ABC 20/20 on Molestation
by Amazing intonight on abc 20/20 starting at 9:00 pm central time, an actress named ann heche discusses with barbara walters the effects of being molested as a child.
he dad is the perpertrator.
a church going man who led the choir, etc.
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Hojon
I think it's funny how angry people get at her about what she does with her private life. I mean, I've heard people say some really hatefull things about her simply because she was in a relationship with Ellen and now married a guy. Who cares? She's probably bisexual, is it not her right to be in a relationship with whomever she wants? Why does it bother you so much?
It does parallel the JW cases in obvious ways, ultra religious upbringing and hidden abuse are not unique to the JWs. I'm going to try to watch it if I can. It is clear that she was seriously affected by the abuse and probably quite a bit of guilt too, which would explain her mental problems. Hardly anything to hate her over.
While I'm on it, why is it OK to call someone a freak or weirdo for having mental illness, but most people would not call someone with a physical handicap the same thing?
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VietNam Era
by Tina inreading country joe's posts got me thinkingabout the vietnam war era folks here.. what were you doing at that time?.
as jw's and non-jw's,what were your feelings about the war?.
are you a vet or child of one?.
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Hojon
I was born in '71 so obviously it wasn't an issue for me. I am however fascinated by stories about wars and warfare. I think it's because it's so different than 'regular' life. I mean, they put you in a situation where you are encouraged to kill people, which is so contrary to how most people are raised. It's like they flick a switch, when you are home you have to respect people's life and then once you hit the ground in whatever country you go to suddenly it's the opposite. But when you get home, all of a sudden you have to start being nice again.
That must take a toll on a person's psychology.
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Atheist Prophecy Fulfilled!
by Amazing inin the late 1960s, when i was studying with the jws, i worked in a very unique and mixed environment.
the two brothers who owned the company were lutheran and baptist.
the drafting supervisor was a jw and a co-wroker was mormon.
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Hojon
Shouldn't that be "Halleludave?
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Mother Teresa was possesed by Satan
by bboyneko 2 inarchbishop: mother teresa underwent exorcism .
september 5, 2001 posted: 10:05 am edt (1405 gmt).
by satinder bindra.
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Hojon
HOJON, what kind of name is that..... It sounds rather witchlike to meee....... LETS BURN HIIIIIIIIMMMM!!!!!!!!!!
If I float I'm a witch and you can kill me. If I sink and drown I'm not a witch. Hmm, doesn't sound very good either way.
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JW's- Have they lost their ability to think?
by Vitameatavegamin ini seriously ask this question in light of some ridiculous experiences i have had in recent times.
a while back,a freind of mine purchased a new home.
a housewarming party was planned for her.
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Hojon
r u resorting to calling me a liar via b.s., because your experience and those of others havent been the same as mine?
Liar? No. Apologist? Yes.
I am sure you are stretching things though. Tell me this, if they are so accepting of worldly people what would happen if you started dating a Catholic girl? Or an athiest? Would you still have your responsibilities? Would you not catch hell for it?
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Mother Teresa was possesed by Satan
by bboyneko 2 inarchbishop: mother teresa underwent exorcism .
september 5, 2001 posted: 10:05 am edt (1405 gmt).
by satinder bindra.
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Hojon
Oh...my...god. What is this, the middle ages?
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JW's- Have they lost their ability to think?
by Vitameatavegamin ini seriously ask this question in light of some ridiculous experiences i have had in recent times.
a while back,a freind of mine purchased a new home.
a housewarming party was planned for her.
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Hojon
You're joking, right? I was told several times that I was seen with worldly people and that would prevent me from "moving up" in the cong. The most I could do was carry the damn microphones.
This is typical of the JW mindset though, he's trying to justify actions by calling everything a "conscience" matter. Blood, voting, beards, worldly friends, oral sex, etc is all a "conscience" matter when talking to non-JWs, but inside the cong we all know how it is. Don't forget NYTelecom, everyone here used to be or still is a JW. We know what it's really like, we were all there. Don't try to BS your way through this one, it won't work.
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JW's- Have they lost their ability to think?
by Vitameatavegamin ini seriously ask this question in light of some ridiculous experiences i have had in recent times.
a while back,a freind of mine purchased a new home.
a housewarming party was planned for her.
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Hojon
That's very unusual. My dad was never a witness so other witnesses would NEVER come to our house. They felt it didn't have god's spirit on it since my dad was an unbeliever, and that they would lose god's protection if they were there.
I got busted several times for hanging out with worldly people. I am not sure what it's like in NY, but in my cong it was definately not allowed.