I would prefer a man be able to study a subject and then give an understandable answer on the topic.
Really Moshe?- So then perhaps you should also do the above-rather than post replies as you did above.
hooberus
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Flood/Bristlecone Pine: For bible believers: please answer
by skyman in.
using overlapping tree ring patterns from dead and still living bristlecone pines shows a 100% provable climate for california for over 10,000 years thus proving the the great flood did not happen as far back as 10,000 years ago.. www.americanforests.org/productsandpubs/ magazine/archives/2004winter/feature1_1.php - 19k.
www.unmuseum.org/radiocar.htm - 8k
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Flood/Bristlecone Pine: For bible believers: please answer
by skyman in.
using overlapping tree ring patterns from dead and still living bristlecone pines shows a 100% provable climate for california for over 10,000 years thus proving the the great flood did not happen as far back as 10,000 years ago.. www.americanforests.org/productsandpubs/ magazine/archives/2004winter/feature1_1.php - 19k.
www.unmuseum.org/radiocar.htm - 8k
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hooberus
Therefore, they say,
"I must find evidence to show that science is wrong in those areas bearing on my religion. To the extent that I fail to do that, I must suppress science. Finally, if I cannot do either of these things, I may need to become militant to preserve what I believe I need in order to carry on with my life."
We find evidence for this reaction here, in the forum as well as across the entire world. Only recently have the philosophical implications of science become well known to enough people in all major cultures for the leaders of these cultures to realize what is at stake.Your above comments could possibly apply to some of the materialists here as well.
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This may be my last postÂ…so goodbye and thanks
by seven006 ini never thought i would do one of those infamous goodbye i cant take this board anymore posts where the person shows up again a week later and looks like an idiot.
when i had enough of this board and needed a little break i would just quietly leave for a few months and hopefully nobody noticed.
that is not the case this time.
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hooberus
I wish you well and will pray for you.
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Please help! Child custody
by Cindyrenee ini am looking for the book the sociey gives to help witnesses with custody cases.
found one link, but could not get it to download.
thank you so very much.
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hooberus
You might wish to personally contact Duane Magnani. He is a specialist and consultant on WT custody issues for families, and has also written a book on the subject. http://www.witnessinc.com
Here is the book: (http://www.witnessinc.com/ordering_materials.html see #988)
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Flood/Bristlecone Pine: For bible believers: please answer
by skyman in.
using overlapping tree ring patterns from dead and still living bristlecone pines shows a 100% provable climate for california for over 10,000 years thus proving the the great flood did not happen as far back as 10,000 years ago.. www.americanforests.org/productsandpubs/ magazine/archives/2004winter/feature1_1.php - 19k.
www.unmuseum.org/radiocar.htm - 8k
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hooberus
Please keep in mind what Hoob presents is considered pseuoscience that has not been properly peer reviewed.
What makes what I presented "pseudoscience" and what is your criteria of being "properly peer reviewed"?
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Christians - Do you believe the flood occurred?
by AlmostAtheist inwhen i was a bible believer, i accepted the flood.
the frozen mammoths and seashells on mountaintops were "evidence", but the only needed proof was simply that the bible said so.
as a christian, do you believe the flood story?.
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hooberus
and who went to all the trouble of scrubbing the water marks from that nasty global deluge off of the great pyramids?
http://www.answersingenesis.org/creation/v26/i4/pyramids.asp
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Christians - Do you believe the flood occurred?
by AlmostAtheist inwhen i was a bible believer, i accepted the flood.
the frozen mammoths and seashells on mountaintops were "evidence", but the only needed proof was simply that the bible said so.
as a christian, do you believe the flood story?.
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hooberus
The first Jesuit missionary priests to China (circa 1650) were just about laughed out of town because of their "bible" chronology - the Chinese had historical records showing their great civilization going way back before the accepted date for the flood.
For example, their first emperor, Fu Hsi, was recorded to have begun his rule in 2952 B.C. which is about 600 years before the Hebrew date for the flood.
http://www.icr.org/index.php?module=articles&action=view&ID=600
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Flood/Bristlecone Pine: For bible believers: please answer
by skyman in.
using overlapping tree ring patterns from dead and still living bristlecone pines shows a 100% provable climate for california for over 10,000 years thus proving the the great flood did not happen as far back as 10,000 years ago.. www.americanforests.org/productsandpubs/ magazine/archives/2004winter/feature1_1.php - 19k.
www.unmuseum.org/radiocar.htm - 8k
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hooberus
Here are some creationist resources that may be helpful:
"Collapsing the Long Bristlecone Pine Tree Ring Chronologies, J. Woodmorappe" available from http://www.csfpittsburgh.org/icc03.htm
"Radiocarbon, Dendrochronology and the Date of the Flood -Aardsma." available from http://www.csfpittsburgh.org/icc90.html -
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Creatiolution. This could be the answer.
by Spectrum inthis is a continuation of a discussion i've had with abaddon.
we were at loggerheads in the beginning but i'm coming round to his way of thinking to a certain extent.
i still haven't given up my belief in an intelligent creator but at the same time there is evidence for evolution which cannot be discounted.
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hooberus
And most of the references you quote (like http://www.answersingenesis.org/docs2002/carbon_dating.asp) are sufficently incompetent to use the assumed FACT of the Flood being real as an explanation for how somethings are, when of course the Flood is not proven.
In response to the above previously I wrote: "Firstly, one of your previous false accusations of "incompetence" against creationists regarding that specific arctcile was already documented here: (http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/12/102274/1810307/post.ashx#1810307)." I was unable to edit- it should instead be be: Firstly, one of your previous false accusations of "incompetence" against creationists regarding a similar AIG arcticle discussing carbon dating (which also referenced the more detailed carbon dating arcticle) was already documented here:(http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/12/102274/1810307/post.ashx#1810307). -
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Christians - Do you believe the flood occurred?
by AlmostAtheist inwhen i was a bible believer, i accepted the flood.
the frozen mammoths and seashells on mountaintops were "evidence", but the only needed proof was simply that the bible said so.
as a christian, do you believe the flood story?.
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hooberus
Well, for the global diehards, I still have a few simple questions that I cannot personally get past -
What happened to all that water? It cannot just evaporate into space---its got to be still here in some form or another.
What happened to all the PLANTS? Most of them will not survive being inundated. Even if Noah saved plant samples as well as animals, how did the other CONTINENTS get repopulated with their unique species. And don't tell me continental drift had them all as one landmass. That is cheating if you think this happened within the past 6000 years.
Also, did you ever consider how HARD it would have to rain to accomplish this? 10" of rain in an hour is a pretty good downpour...what does that add up to over 40 days?