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One of the Governing Body had a stroke yesterday

by AndersonsInfo in

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on may 19th, theodore jaracz had a stroke.

he's in very serious condition in the hospital.. that's all the information i have for now.. barb.

BonaFide

At the Convention yesterday, I asked some of the pioneers and elders. No one had even heard he had a stroke.

BF

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My experience at the District Convention today - Appreciate your comments

by BonaFide in

i know i am the one to constantly harp on this board how the organization has lost its "swagger" and the baptism and attendance is going down, and people are waking up.. not so fast.. the audience cried, i mean a lot of people cried when they played some of the songs from the new songbook.

some had bethel singers who sounded pretty good singing them.

so many after the program were saying how touched they were.. then the new release of the book showing how the book of acts prefigures the organization today.

BonaFide

Thanks everyone. I really hope that is true that the excitement will be short-lived.

I did notice that many of the friends were walking around during the sessions. Plus I doubt that most of the friends will read the new book. They will wait until it is studied next year at the CBS.

BF

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My experience at the District Convention today - Appreciate your comments

by BonaFide in

i know i am the one to constantly harp on this board how the organization has lost its "swagger" and the baptism and attendance is going down, and people are waking up.. not so fast.. the audience cried, i mean a lot of people cried when they played some of the songs from the new songbook.

some had bethel singers who sounded pretty good singing them.

so many after the program were saying how touched they were.. then the new release of the book showing how the book of acts prefigures the organization today.

BonaFide

I know Outlaw, I know. I just feel like since I found out, I want all my family and friends to find out. Or maybe I just want to be proved right? I am not sure. Because when I used to bring up a LOT of questions with my family, they would say to wait on Jehovah, and they always said the Organization comes first, stuff like that. Plus those PHARISAICAL ELDERS, and those who treat othes bad. It would be so GREAT to have the Organiztion fall, and then well...it would be cool to see everyone woken up.

I am back in school, so at least I am doing that. And I put fake time in service mostly.

BUT HOW COME I CAN'T GET MY FAMILY AND FRIENDS OUT DARN IT!!!

BF

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How long will the WTBTS survive?

by Megachusen in

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give it your best educated guess.

how long do you guys think it has left?.

personally, i think it has about 10 years before the org's leadership disolves and the religion splinters into hundreds of adorable little jw-like cults..

BonaFide

I think right now I agree with Nbernat. I went to the convention today, and the younger ones, in their 20's, 30's and even those in their 40's seemed pretty strong. There was more "excitement" than last year, sorry to say.

Seemed like everyone loved the program, lots of applause.

So, yes, maybe 40 years. Wow. Sad.

BF

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My experience at the District Convention today - Appreciate your comments

by BonaFide in

i know i am the one to constantly harp on this board how the organization has lost its "swagger" and the baptism and attendance is going down, and people are waking up.. not so fast.. the audience cried, i mean a lot of people cried when they played some of the songs from the new songbook.

some had bethel singers who sounded pretty good singing them.

so many after the program were saying how touched they were.. then the new release of the book showing how the book of acts prefigures the organization today.

BonaFide

I know I am the one to constantly harp on this board how the Organization has lost its "Swagger" and the baptism and attendance is going down, and people are waking up.

Not so fast.

The audience cried, I mean a lot of people cried when they played some of the songs from the new songbook. Some had Bethel singers who sounded pretty good singing them. So many after the program were saying how touched they were.

Then the new release of the book showing how the book of Acts prefigures the Organization today. More positive and happy comments. I mean the friends really seemed happy.

And then today the Drama, everyone around me seemed to be touched, and there was a ton of applause. I started a couple of conversations after with my car group about the stereotyping in the Drama, and that very few young ones in the Organization have a father who has a business and is a Witness, but my comments didn't seem to have much effect.

Yes, there were a lot of old ones there, and some have died since last year. But the children who are our age, in our 30's and 40's, who were raised in the truth, the majority are still in, and from what I could see at this convention, they seem to be in for life.

I wish I could do something about this, but it's hard when the entire assembly is singing praises about the new releases and experiences.

Any suggestions or comments?

BF

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The term "young ones"

by Gram in

when did this term become popular?

is it regional or throughout the u.s.?

is it from an article in one of the publications?

BonaFide

I think the Society tries to come up with a duplicate word for everything, so that they can redefine it.

Publisher

Dedication

Pioneer

I think 'young ones' fits into that category.

BF

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How do you respond to the JW statement: "The First Century had congregations, preaching, Elders, Servants, C.O.'s, and so do we!

by BonaFide in

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well?.

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bf.

BonaFide

I am trying to help my family and friends, but sometimes I come up against difficult comments. The new book is going to make it harder I think, to get people out.

BF

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How do you respond to the JW statement: "The First Century had congregations, preaching, Elders, Servants, C.O.'s, and so do we!

by BonaFide in

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well?.

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bf.

BonaFide

Well?

BF

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The new book released at the Convention has a photo of the current GB members

by BonaFide in

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i will try to scan the photo tomorrow and put it on here.. i read some of the book today, it makes direct connections between the first century and jw's now.. for example:.

the book talks about the apostles and says, 'after jesus death, they took the lead, becoming the governing body of that time.".

congregations of that time - jw congregations today.

BonaFide

I will try to scan the photo tomorrow and put it on here.

I read some of the book today, it makes DIRECT connections between the first century and JW's now.

For example:

The book talks about the apostles and says, 'after Jesus death, they took the lead, becoming the Governing Body of that time."

Congregations of that time - JW congregations today

Elders and Ministerial Servants of that time - JW Elders and Servants

It also says the apostles went door-to-door, and so do JW's today.

BF

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Forget all of the stages: Denial, Anger, Sadness - Don't you sometimes just feel STUPID for having believed in the Organization?

by BonaFide in

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i know i have been through all those stages, i denied it, then i got angry, definitely sad.

months and months of this, and i still am in for my family and friends.. but sometimes i just feel stupid.

why did i ignore basic common sense for so long?

BonaFide

So at least I don't feel THAT stupid, so many on here went through the same thing. One of the posters made a comment a few days ago that I really like. He said that not only are you raised in the JW way, you also see at the Kingdom Hall people dressed in suits, people you respect, and you think, "How could all of them be wrong?"

BF