Whatever Minimus. If anyone doesn't believe me, they don't have to. I don't trust everyone on here myself.
BF
i think someone else mentioned this before, but i am interested in providing some practical help to those on this board.
many of you have helped me, and i see a lot of good will on here.. some here seem to need to move to another congregation to "fade.
" or they might be in a judicial situation.. can i help?
Whatever Minimus. If anyone doesn't believe me, they don't have to. I don't trust everyone on here myself.
BF
here in the states, some jw's are really into this.
i am not talking about a valid lawsuit regarding an accident.
i am talking about multiple lawsuits.. we had one sister that had 3 lawsuits going on at any one time.
Minimus, the reason I don't talk like other C.O.'s you know is because you have never met me. The C.O.'s in this country are more "formal" in my experience.
BF
i think someone else mentioned this before, but i am interested in providing some practical help to those on this board.
many of you have helped me, and i see a lot of good will on here.. some here seem to need to move to another congregation to "fade.
" or they might be in a judicial situation.. can i help?
Here I am worried someone on here will OUT ME, and some on here think I will OUT THEM?
BF
i think someone else mentioned this before, but i am interested in providing some practical help to those on this board.
many of you have helped me, and i see a lot of good will on here.. some here seem to need to move to another congregation to "fade.
" or they might be in a judicial situation.. can i help?
Good idea. I will give you the number if you PM me. Of course, don't ask directly if it is a JW apartment complex. But the manager is a long-time Witness, so say you are a Witness moving into the area, you can give my real name as a reference. And ask how many in the complex are Witnesses.
BF
i think someone else mentioned this before, but i am interested in providing some practical help to those on this board.
many of you have helped me, and i see a lot of good will on here.. some here seem to need to move to another congregation to "fade.
" or they might be in a judicial situation.. can i help?
If anyone thinks I am a troll, you can PM me, I would hate to be victimized myself by a troll. So feel free to PM me, I will give you my phone number and we can chat. I have talked to a couple of people on this board. I am running a risk of being caught by the congregation, I know that.
Yes, I still live in that JW apartment complex. 90% Witnesses, 5% worldly people, 5% disfellowshipped.
BF
here in the states, some jw's are really into this.
i am not talking about a valid lawsuit regarding an accident.
i am talking about multiple lawsuits.. we had one sister that had 3 lawsuits going on at any one time.
Here in the States, some JW's are really into this. I am not talking about a valid lawsuit regarding an accident. I am talking about MULTIPLE LAWSUITS.
We had one sister that had 3 lawsuits going on at any one time. I don't know how she did it. One was an "accident" at work, one was a car accident, and one was at a supermarket where she "fell." She always drove a BRAND NEW Lexus, and NEVER WORKED. Then after a while, she would have another "accident."
Another couple I know did the same thing. They got a ton of money from two car accidents where they hurt their "back." But they still could snowboard fortunately. So they had all this money and bought a brand new car, super nice clothes, etc. He was, and is, an elder, and he would talk about "working hard secularly" to provide for his family. He used to say how important it is to pay bills on time. I tried to be a nice guy, but once I told him that's it's not too easy because I have to support myself, and I never got into an accident, so I don't get that free money. He never spoke to me again, other than to wave at a distance.
I don't want to come across as unfeeling, I know some have real accidents and are really in pain.
But I have seen others that show no signs of being in pain, they are running around, sports, dining, vacations, meanwhile they always seem to have lawsuits pending, and hardly do any secular work. Plus they try to imply they ARE HARD WORKERS. Drives me crazy.
Have you seen this?
BF
just found this board late last night and can't stop reading, it's fascinating.. let me give you a quick background of myself.
i was born a jw, never baptized, was labeled bad association when i was 12 due to having all worldy friends and smoking, lol.
i was very confused how being that young i could be labelled as that but i was.
Sorry about your Grandmother. I agree with the other posters, check out the "Best Of" section. You will enjoy it.
BF
honestly, i never believed in the chronology.
"no man knows the day or the hour" was pretty clear to me..
I believed it would come before the year 2000. I trusted the January 1, 1989 WT when it said the preaching work would be completed "before the end of this century." I kept that WT in my bookbag for a long time. Then they changed the wording.
BF
elders are told they are appointed by holy spirit.
that means the supreme god of the universe used his force to appoint them over the flock.. that is a major big deal.. so when they get in that back room, and the body of elders meets, or they are on a judicial committee or shepherding or whatever, they think they are speaking for jehovah god himself.. do we realize what that means?
that means that when they feel something, or they are emotional about something, or they get mad at someone in that room, they feel that is holy spirit directing them.. they don't realize they are on their own.
Elders are told they are appointed by Holy Spirit. That means THE SUPREME GOD OF THE UNIVERSE USED HIS FORCE TO APPOINT THEM OVER THE FLOCK.
That is a major big deal.
So when they get in that back room, and the body of elders meets, or they are on a judicial committee or shepherding or whatever, THEY THINK THEY ARE SPEAKING FOR JEHOVAH GOD HIMSELF.
Do we realize what that means? That means that when THEY FEEL SOMETHING, OR THEY ARE EMOTIONAL ABOUT SOMETHING, OR THEY GET MAD AT SOMEONE IN THAT ROOM, THEY FEEL THAT IS HOLY SPIRIT DIRECTING THEM.
They don't realize they are on their own. Those feelings that they have are not from God. I know, becaue I was one. I felt like that. I believed that when I had a FEELING about something, that was JEHOVAH GOD telling me something.
Of course, I did try to analyze myself to make sure I was following God's viewpoint through the Society.
But in general, THAT IS WHAT ELDERS BELIEVE.
So no wonder when you call them on something, or their opinion is wrong, it's not their fault, it's your fault. They are appointed by Holy Spirit.
How many elders realize they those opinions they have about people are just that, their opinion?
They don't, they think God is directing them.
What do you think? Do you agree? Disagree?
Bring it on.
BF
so this morning was the public talk and wt study.
after, we did our usual and went to eat.
the group was mixed ages.
Wha H, why did it disturb you?
BF