interesting experience...
a baptist minister eh? thats hilarious!!!
nice to meet you.
Solace1998
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Hi! I'm new here!
by gloobster ini just signed up here, so i guess i should let everyone know a few things about myself.. my maternal grandfather was an elder in a congregation here, and he and my grandmother raised my mother quite strictly as a jehovah's witness.
my father's father was also a jehovah's witness, though much less devout.
when my parents were in their mid-20's they more or less disassociated themselves from the flock.
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Is this fair?
by nbernat inthis is my take on the whole inherited sin thing:.
let's say your parents committed a crime and were sentenced to life in prison, let's say 140 years.
now, they died 90 years short of their sentence.
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Solace1998
6000 years of pain and suffering are nothing compared to an eternal life in paradise (or heaven, if you believe that sort of thing)
and no no no
destroying all opposers would have only shown jehovahs power, not justice.
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sometimes this place makes me sick...
by theinfamousone init has been quite some time since i have posted on this glorious discussion group... it has been even longer since i have started any discussions myself.. and as somber (or possibly upsetting), my title or even thesis may seem, there is reason and respect coming behind it.... i do love the majority of the people who post here... though your faces and names may have changed since i started here, your kind words, sincere support and listening ears have always been very much appreciated... you have helped me through the hardest times of my life... my feelings of inadequacy (spl?
) and loneliness have often been overshadowed by your caring and love... so i must start by thanking you..... now, that being said; sometimes when i come online and read the dribble that some of you protray as discussion, i am almost sickened... right now my stomach is in knots because of the recent description of one's fecal matter i was subject to read... and yes, i know i could have just clicked off of it, but the title seemed appealing, the subject matter on the other hand was not.... but even this is not enough to turn me off of this site.... the other thing that leaves me with a bitter taste in my mouth, is the bull **** that i once believed... the terrible attitude and delusion of grandeur i once shared with the people of this terrible organization.... the pain i must have helped to instill in people who truly did not deserve it... the hatred i felt inside when someone decided to disassociate themselves, or the anger i felt towards the people that were disfellowshipped.
the letters i wrote to my friends, who had left... the families that were falling apart around me, as my own was able to hold some semblance of happiness and stability (whether feigned or not)... all the pain and torture this borg has put me through...has put so many others through... this has left me reeling.... reading about it every day no longer instills anger in me, as it used to... now, it sickens me... sickens me to believe i once felt this way, sickens me that so many others still condemn others for thinking... sickens me to realize that there are other 15 year olds out there being beaten for smiling... sickens me to think that there is not much i can do to help them... except maybe hope that one day they will find this website, or find some friend, or find me, and we can all work together to help this person out..... yes, i needed to rant... the true nature of this message though is to say thank you to all of you for making me realize how sick the witnesses are... how morally blind they are... and how much pain they instill... thank you for helping me out when i needed the help most... thanks for being my family... and i just hope i can help you all and anyone else that needs it as much as you helped me... i hope one day we all feel sickened at the damage the witnesses caused and continue to cause.
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Solace1998
"delusion of grandeur"
-- your problem
"the hatred i felt inside when someone decided to disassociate themselves"
-- your problem
"anger i felt towards the people that were disfellowshipped"
-- your problem
"ickens me to realize that there are other 15 year olds out there being beaten for smiling"
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Is this fair?
by nbernat inthis is my take on the whole inherited sin thing:.
let's say your parents committed a crime and were sentenced to life in prison, let's say 140 years.
now, they died 90 years short of their sentence.
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because the human race had to continue on and show that it would be faithful in the end, even facing the results of sin.
If he just started over, it would likely just happen again and we would be in the same predicament. The question needed to be answered. -
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Current Affair Report on Cult Christian Fellowhip
by brinjen inaired just tonight, it's a five minute clip with former born-in member relating his experiences on his time in this cult.. http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=sinxlhpsvv0.
the similarities, how can anyone not see it?
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Solace1998
there are a few similarities, for sure.
however, you are speaking in hyperbole if you think the similarities are somewhat staggering. -
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Is this fair?
by nbernat inthis is my take on the whole inherited sin thing:.
let's say your parents committed a crime and were sentenced to life in prison, let's say 140 years.
now, they died 90 years short of their sentence.
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no, according to BIBLICAL (not nessecarily WT) teaching
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Do GB members have Holy Spirit when editing WT pictures ?
by aligot ripounsous inpictures in the latest two wt study articles left me with an uncomfortable feeling, which leads me to wonder if hs is ever inspiring the gb members in charge (i suppose there are such ones) of editing wt study articles before them being printed.. first, there was that picture last week where a jw man is meant to give his work colleagues a fine witness as, during break time, he is reading his bible, and it is implied that, in doing so, he is triggering the interest of one of his work mates who, at first, looks rather suspicious.
in fact, that jw man is sitting ten steps away from his colleagues and reads his bible quite ostentatiously.
at watching that picture, instead of thinking of a fine witness being given, any onlooker will say that this mans attitude is pharisaic and delivers the message that he his holier than all those around who belong to the sinful world and he doesnt want to mingle with them.
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"All I could think in today's Watchtower was "Why do we have judicial committees when Jesus told us to "stop judging"". "
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"We NEVER PROPHESIED about 1975"
by Honesty in2:24 through 5:12 of the following video says they did:.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fiezx74p5ck&feature=related.
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Solace1998
umm, have these attendees made a website regarding the proof of this?!?! Was there some sort of media coverage at the time? something in a handbill?!?! You are gonna need better proof than this -- trust me
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the anointed are higher than angels, so no go on that comparison
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Charles Sunutko - What became of him
by donny ini have often heard the 1967 talk of district overseer charles sunutko regarding 1975, but does anyone know what became of him?
is he still around?
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Solace1998
So, this ONE guy gave a talk about 1975? Is it the only one? was he reprimanded in any way?
The (alleged) talk alone will not be enough proof.