If your spouse is going to be resurected why remarry?
by paybacktime19 35 Replies latest watchtower scandals
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VM44
Because the resurrected person that thinks it is the person who lived before is only a copy of the original!
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Gopher
If your spouse is going to be resurected why remarry?
When your spouse is resurrected, they're only a copy of the original -- and not the original.
Also, according to JW belief, resurrected persons will not be able to marry in the New Order. They will remain unmarried (and, I assume, celibate -- since fornication would bring about sudden divine judgment). So apparently the resurrected ones won't even have the desire to have sex or marry again (in the JW fantasy New World). That person will view you like a sibling, and will not desire you.
Meanwhile, before Armageddon came you married another Stepford spouse -- and you both served Jehoober and survived into the New Order -- and you're free to have lots of , um, well -- "romance" with your Stepford partner until the earth fills up with people.
Gopher -- of the "taking things to their illogical conclusion" class
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paybacktime19
thank you
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Lady Zombie
When your spouse is resurrected, they're only a copy of the original -- and not the original.
Also, according to JW belief, resurrected persons will not be able to marry in the New Order. They will remain unmarried (and, I assume, celibate -- since fornication would bring about sudden divine judgment). So apparently the resurrected ones won't even have the desire to have sex or marry again (in the JW fantasy New World). That person will view you like a sibling, and will not desire you.
Meanwhile, before Armageddon came you married another Stepford spouse -- and you both served Jehoober and survived into the New Order -- and you're free to have lots of , um, well -- "romance" with your Stepford partner until the earth fills up with people.
Gopher -- of the "taking things to their illogical conclusion" class
This is one of the more messed up beliefs of JWs. When a spouse dies and a JW widow(er) is greiving, other JWs "comfort" them by saying, 'you'll see them in the New Order!'
Yeah? How 'comforting' is that really? You get to see your spouse who is no longer your spouse, has no desire to be a traditional spouse, and who is celibate but you, on the other hand, still want to be with them.
And like Gopher said, they'll only be a copy of the original.
Just chalk it up to yet another delusional belief by a whacked out cult.
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james_woods
Or, even more messed up is the possibility that one marriage mate is of the annointed, the other is of the earthly class. Then, complicate this by the possibility that they have a kid.
Yes, I used to know a CO named Dave Wetzler who was exactly in that situation. He claimed to be annointed, wife did not. They finally did have a kid.
I heard from someone else here on the JWD that Dave had passed away some years back, but wife and kid are still witnesses.
I really hate to comment, but this gives me the creeps.
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Lady Zombie
Yeah, that is creepy; annoited vs. earthly class spouses.
So, would the annoited former spouse pop down to earth from time to time to say hello to the ex-wife and kid?
Could the earthly spouse and kid "pray" to talk to mom/dad?
'Hi dad? Mom and I and a whole bunch of us from the old congregation are getting together next week. Do you think Jehovah could let you off for a few hours to come to the reunion? Let's us know!'
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blondie
*** w87 6/1 pp. 30-31 Questions From Readers ***
Is it wise for a Christian whose mate has died to remain single in the hope of being reunited in the future?
How fine it is that a Christian should feel love for his or her mate even after that one has died! Some in this situation have remained single, not because of being content with singleness, but in hopes of resuming the marriage after the resurrection. While not being insensitive to the human feelings behind those hopes, we encourage such ones to consider some Biblical points.
For instance, bearing on the matter are the apostle Paul’s words: "A wife is bound during all the time her husband is alive. But if her husband should fall asleep in death, she is free to be married to whom she wants, only in the Lord. But she is happier if she remains as she is." (1 Corinthians 7:39, 40) This shows that the marital bond ends when one’s mate dies. It was a kindness for God to inform Christians of this, for thus widows and widowers can weigh their emotional and other needs in deciding whether to remarry; they are not bound to the deceased.—1 Corinthians 7:8, 9.
Does the Bible, though, indicate whether resurrected ones will be able to marry or to resume a previous marriage that was ended by a death? One account seems to bear on this question. It involved Sadducees who, while not even believing in the resurrection, came to Jesus trying to entrap him. They presented this problem involving brother-in-law marriage: "There were seven brothers; and the first took a wife and died childless. So the second, and the third took her. Likewise even the seven: they did not leave children behind, but died off. Lastly, the woman also died. Consequently, in the resurrection, of which one of them does she become the wife?"—Luke 20:27-33; Matthew 22:23-28.
Christians are not under the Law, but a similar difficulty could be raised concerning them. For example: Brother and Sister C—— were married and had two children. Then he died. Sister C—— loved and deeply missed him, but she felt a need for companionship, financial support, sexual expression, and help with the children. So she married Brother M——, which union was as Scriptural as the first. Later he became ill and died. If the former mates were resurrected and marriage were possible, whom might she marry?
Consider Jesus’ response to the Sadducees: "The children of this system of things marry and are given in marriage, but those who have been counted worthy of gaining that system of things and the resurrection from the dead neither marry nor are given in marriage. In fact, neither can they die anymore, for they are like the angels, and they are God’s children by being children of the resurrection. But that the dead are raised up even Moses disclosed . . . when he calls Jehovah ‘the God of Abraham and God of Isaac and God of Jacob.’ He is a God, not of the dead, but of the living, for they are all living to him."—Luke 20:34-38; Matthew 22:29-32.
Some have felt that Jesus was here referring to the heavenly resurrection, yet there are reasons to believe that his reply was about the earthly resurrection in the coming "system of things." What reasons underlie this view? Those questioning Jesus did not believe in him or know about a heavenly resurrection. They asked about a Jewish family under the Law. In reply Jesus referred to Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, men who hoped for life again on earth. (Genesis 42:38; Job 14:13-15; compare Hebrews 11:19.) Those patriarchs, and millions of others, who are raised on earth and who prove faithful will be "like the angels." Though mortal, they will not die once God has declared them righteous for endless life.
Human emotions today might make this a difficult conclusion to accept. But it is to be noted that nowhere does the Bible say that God’s resurrecting the faithful means restoring their marital status. Hence, no one believes that if Aquila and Priscilla have gained life in heaven, they have resumed their marriage. (Acts 18:2) And Joseph and Mary will evidently live in different realms—he on earth and she in heaven. (John 19:26; Acts 1:13, 14) Since none of us have lived in heaven, we cannot say what feelings Aquila, Priscilla, and Mary might have there, yet we can be sure of their finding full contentment in their heavenly service.
Similarly, we have never lived as perfect humans. Thus we cannot be sure how we will feel about past relationships if and when we gain perfect human life in a paradise. It is good for us to remember that when Jesus made that statement he was a perfect human and therefore in a better position than we to appreciate the feelings of those who are "counted worthy of gaining that system of things." We can also trust that Jesus is able to ‘sympathize with our present weaknesses.’ (Hebrews 4:15) So if a Christian finds it hard to accept the conclusion that resurrected ones will not marry, he can be sure that God and Christ are understanding. And he can simply wait to see what occurs.
There is no reason now to overemphasize this matter. The psalmist wrote: "Know that Jehovah is God. It is he that has made us, and not we ourselves. We are his people and the sheep of his pasturage . . . Give thanks to him, bless his name. For Jehovah is good." (Psalm 100:3-5) Our good God will certainly provide amply for our true needs if we are "counted worthy of gaining that system of things."—Job 34:10-12; Psalm 104:28; 107:9.
God’s goodness is reflected also in his informing us that the death of a mate concludes the marriage. (Romans 7:2) Thus anyone who has lost a mate can know that he or she is free to remarry now if that seems needed or best. Some have remarried, thereby helping to fill their own present needs and those of their family. (1 Corinthians 7:36-38; Ephesians 6:1-4) Consequently, a Christian whose mate has died should not feel obliged to remain mateless now out of an expectation that former marriage mates will be reunited in the resurrection to life here on earth in the coming system.
[Footnotes]
If an Israelite died before his wife brought forth a son who could receive the inheritance, the man’s brother had to marry the widow with the view of producing a son by her.—Deuteronomy 25:5-10.
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sweetstuff
What I find hilarious about this teaching is this....according to the bible, the angels in heaven weren't content with having no sex, hence they made bodies for themselves and came to earth to make monkey love with human women....so apparently being in heavenly service even as an angel isnt' all its cracked up to be, they wanted some of that "action"....and disobeyed "God" to come down to earth to get it. Food for thought.
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blondie
I always thought that the angels motive was more to have children and a family, a powerbase to rule over the earth rather than sex. That was the one thing that humans had that the angels did not, the ability to procreate.