Posts by Momma-Tossed-Me

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Believe it or not, another brief elder encounter yesterday...

by sd-7 in

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it was another elder from my judicial committee, came up to me after i'd strapped my daughter into the car.

two things that struck me as different were (1) he didn't feel a need to bring a second elder along with him as if something that required two witnesses was going to be said by someone who'd been df'd for two years and 99.9% absent from meetings as well, and (2) he actually seemed genuinely friendly.

he simply asked if i was planning to come to the meetings again anytime soon.

Momma-Tossed-Me

You are exactly right...the feeling you get is that of seeing someone who has abused you after some time has passed.

MTM

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Went back out in Field Service Today... Feedback?

by simon17 in

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after three years i dusted off my bible put on my sunday suit and walked door-to-door in the glorious morning sun for 90 minutes solid (no breaks--old-school).

' i always felt some subtle compulsion to do this, i don't know why.

it was not for subterfuge or causing trouble.

Momma-Tossed-Me

Thank you for that uplifting experience...you have inspired me to do the same once I get a few other things off my plate.

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Conversing With a Disfellowshipped Elder

by Quendi in

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Momma-Tossed-Me

Keep up the fight....

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Conversing With a Disfellowshipped Elder

by Quendi in

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friends

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Experience with Former Elder regarding contributions at Conventions

by Momma-Tossed-Me in

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i recently had the opportunity to visit with a former elder who has successfully faded without getting df'd, but he is completely aware of the sham.

he was the main accounts guy for the conventions in his circuit.

he related a very telling story to me the other day that i thought i would share with you.

Momma-Tossed-Me

Unbelieveable....

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Experience with Former Elder regarding contributions at Conventions

by Momma-Tossed-Me in

jw
friends

i recently had the opportunity to visit with a former elder who has successfully faded without getting df'd, but he is completely aware of the sham.

he was the main accounts guy for the conventions in his circuit.

he related a very telling story to me the other day that i thought i would share with you.

Momma-Tossed-Me

A worthy cause in these hard economic times as our goverments need the tax revenue, just show up armed with the facts.

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Experience with Former Elder regarding contributions at Conventions

by Momma-Tossed-Me in

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friends

i recently had the opportunity to visit with a former elder who has successfully faded without getting df'd, but he is completely aware of the sham.

he was the main accounts guy for the conventions in his circuit.

he related a very telling story to me the other day that i thought i would share with you.

Momma-Tossed-Me

There are lot of other threads discussing the same things over and over, thanks for pointing out the obvious.

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Experience with Former Elder regarding contributions at Conventions

by Momma-Tossed-Me in

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friends

i recently had the opportunity to visit with a former elder who has successfully faded without getting df'd, but he is completely aware of the sham.

he was the main accounts guy for the conventions in his circuit.

he related a very telling story to me the other day that i thought i would share with you.

Momma-Tossed-Me

I recently had the opportunity to visit with a former Elder who has successfully faded without getting Df'd, but he is completely aware of the sham.

He was the main accounts guy for the conventions in his circuit. He related a very telling story to me the other day that I thought I would share with you.

He related an experience at a local convention that I attended as a child. He said that after the contribution collection on Saturday at the end of the session they were in the black to the tune of about $7-8000.

After relating that to the higher ups and society reps he was instructed to not mention the fact that the expenses were covered in his announcement the next day only encourage the brothers to keep kingdom interest first and contribute to cover the expenses of the convention....which had already been covered. He said that he felt like he lied to all of the attendees.

He said that it was at that moment he began to question the entire organization. He then paid closer attention to the things that were bothering him.

I related to him that at conventions now there was some sort of administrative fee stuck into the operating costs to the tune of $5-8000. Nobody knows why it is just in there. Perhaps some here can confirm or deny this claim.

I feel like this is common operating procedure at these things. Can someone who has worked in this area or been some sort of heavy within the org confirm this practive of over charging the attendees.

I think it goes without saying, the Society operates their "ministry" at a profit while the rank and file operate their ministry at a defintie loss.

MTM

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