Bravo, I plan on doing the same thing if I get pulled into the back room......
MTM
this will put starch in your backbone!
love this guy!.
d8tabreaking my silence everyone read!!
Bravo, I plan on doing the same thing if I get pulled into the back room......
MTM
since leaving the organization 8 years ago, there have been more significant changes in the actual, physical activities of the organization than occurred in all the 40 plus years i was 'in'.
bethel closings.
bethel layoffs.
How do you eat an Elephant...One bite at a time.
We must keep scooping the new light, annoucements, publication changes and the like. Eventually, it will go quietly into the night.
If you examine the doctrine they have set out as prophecy it speaks volumes about an exit strategy, should things start toppeling like Sampson's last party.
Anyone remember the new field service group leader the R&F should look to in times of disaster. He is a shock absorber.
Should Momma just up an "die" then they will persevere for awhile under the guise of the organization being under attack and then gradually all will realize the big A is not upon us and is not coming.
So 99% of JW's will then reassimalate into society, with the WTBTS only a fond or not so fond memory depending on the person. A suprisingly large amount will hold onto their beliefs but they will be tolerated by the rest of humanity throughout the rest of their lives, as they should be.
All of this is already in place and the Tower will exist as long as it can building wealth as it goes.
As a monetary point; the WTBTS does not loose money. They may be hemorraging money but make no mistake they take in a lot more than they spend.
Although I have no proof of this, I believe they budget within certain margins. For example, if a trend develops that cost(s) to operate begin to eat into the net profit margin, set at let's say 30%, then they begin to reduce the costs to produce publications, cut jobs, sell property, and then increase revenue via investment or interest increases through more loans to Kingdom Hall or Assembly Halls. Thus the margin is restored and net worth continues to increase. When the amounts of money are so large little changes can have a net positive result on income or profits.
They are going to milk this cow as long as it will give milk then abandon it in the state park when it begins to die so they don't have to bury it.
MTM
topless at bethela thing of the past!.
today i uploaded an article to my blog showing something watchtower no longer tolerates at bethel.
my article is titled topless at bethela thing of the past!
I have often wondered if there would be a market for ex-jw pin-up calender or the like.....
credit goes to anony mous=http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/members/private/215963/1/ready-to-leak-wikileaks-style=anony mous wrote:=hi,=i have a cache of documents that are direct from the branch.
they include letters, forms, videos, booklets, instructions on how to handle everything in kingdom hall locally and rbc's financially and otherwise.=includes the branch's instructions on how to write the local incorporations so that all assets go to watchtower inc. and in case that corporation doesn't exist anymore or is no longer tax free, to the governing body (that's what it says!).
i have them for all states but only going to include ny (since that's where they are located).
Atlantis you have a pm......
i often wonder if anyone has a good consistent leak from the top level of the wtbts.
if not how can we get one, one with high level clearance.
they can't want much, probably just another $110 per month or whatever they are getting now, times are tough.. nothing would shake the borg more than consistent correct information coming out early via the internet.. nothing is sacred, all is revealed through a well hidden leak.. mtm.
This organisation is producing enough ex-jdubs now that an organized effort should be made to rebut the WTBTS ideology.
Through a legitaite structured nonprofit corporation funding could be secured for ideas such as the one Diest has proposed.
MTM
about filmtruth be told is a feature length documentary that explores the lives of several individuals raised in the jehovahs witnesses religion.
the title of the film refers to the tendency by jehovahs witnesses to regard their beliefs exclusively as the truth.. the documentary is not an indictment of religion but rather a retrospective.
in a series of informal interviews, former jehovahs witnesses discuss life experiences within the organization including the impact the religion had on their childhood and family, schooling, adolescence, and approaches to dating and marriage.
Just finished watching the EXCERPTS and it is very well produced. I think that ones that are on the fence will appreciate it the most.
my wife and i just visited some friends over the weekend from another congregation.
these two are both full time pioneers, and also participate in various construction projects around the country.
the husband just got back from a 3 week trip to walkill, new york to help with construction on a new residence building at 'the farm' (does anyone call it that anymore?)..
I never ever saw anybody in the indoor pool at Patterson when I was there. Now the outdoor pool at Wallkill was a different story.
The facilities (ball courts) were always loaded at Patterson after work. When stationed at Wallkill there were no indoor rec areas for ball play.
MTM
i often wonder if anyone has a good consistent leak from the top level of the wtbts.
if not how can we get one, one with high level clearance.
they can't want much, probably just another $110 per month or whatever they are getting now, times are tough.. nothing would shake the borg more than consistent correct information coming out early via the internet.. nothing is sacred, all is revealed through a well hidden leak.. mtm.
i often wonder if anyone has a good consistent leak from the top level of the wtbts.
if not how can we get one, one with high level clearance.
they can't want much, probably just another $110 per month or whatever they are getting now, times are tough.. nothing would shake the borg more than consistent correct information coming out early via the internet.. nothing is sacred, all is revealed through a well hidden leak.. mtm.
All good comments regarding this. It goes without saying, no one would openly admit to having one in an open forum, but the discussion should bring together those with some interest in this type of covert undercover work.
Often I have felt that given the right individual this might be possible. Consider the following:
Middle-aged "heavy" Bethelite, who has never been married, heavy drinker (may frequent a favorite restaurant or watering hole) begins to express some regrets over the life course he has chosen.
Enter, undercover female operative who becomes a confidant. His ideology won't let him connect with this individual on a physical level but he is all over her in his conscience mind. She is wealthy and offers a friendly regular subsidy for she believes that the sacrifices he has made in his life are noble.
She gleans what information she can regarding high level matters without expressing interest but then becomes inherently interested in the daily activities of the WTBTS because of the relationship. He becomes more confortable about sharing said info and if necessary a physical relationship with her or a friend of hers could be initiated to prevent the leak from closing up.
This is just a start but, if the money were available to finance something like this would it be great!
I to tire of Rick's tactics. An organized answer to the WTBTS is what is needed, in the form of an office. This is the only way to launch a campaign that would really do some damage to the WTBTS. The media responds to people who are cut from the same cloth as it were as they are, professional marketers, educated media types that know how the system works.
Appreciate any and all responses, thanks for reading my thread.
i often wonder if anyone has a good consistent leak from the top level of the wtbts.
if not how can we get one, one with high level clearance.
they can't want much, probably just another $110 per month or whatever they are getting now, times are tough.. nothing would shake the borg more than consistent correct information coming out early via the internet.. nothing is sacred, all is revealed through a well hidden leak.. mtm.
I often wonder if anyone has a good consistent leak from the top level of the WTBTS. If not how can we get one, one with high level clearance.
They can't want much, probably just another $110 per month or whatever they are getting now, times are tough.
Nothing would shake the Borg more than consistent CORRECT information coming out early via the internet.
Nothing is sacred, all is revealed through a well hidden leak.
MTM