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  Why did/does there appear to be an unusually high number of "Germanic" names in the Governoring Body compared to others?

  by StoneWall in

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  today as i was researching past and present members of the governoring body of j.w.

  's something stood out to me that seemed out of proportion towards other name origins.. the vast majority appeared to be from the germanic peoples.

  either they were originally from germany themself or their parents immigrated from germany.. here are some of the ones i researched and you should be able to spot just from their names a hint of their origins:.

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  Funny that you missed out the only actual German, Martin Poetzinger!

  Slimboy I didn't list all of them is why i said some of the ones in my opening post. There is more but didn't list all of them.

  A question for you though...where did you get your information about Martin being the only "Actual" German?

  Maybe you might want to check out this link I provide and look where Karl Klein was born. Have you got any other reference to state otherwise than him being born in Germany? If so could you list it.

  Here's the link I'm going off of for Karl's birth:

  http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=50946030

  Edited to add: Slimboyfat I just checked the WT CD and it also list Karl as being born in Germany. So once again I ask what do you base your statement about Martin being only "actual" German on? Curious to research it myself since I'm into this today.
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  Why did/does there appear to be an unusually high number of "Germanic" names in the Governoring Body compared to others?

  by StoneWall in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  today as i was researching past and present members of the governoring body of j.w.

  's something stood out to me that seemed out of proportion towards other name origins.. the vast majority appeared to be from the germanic peoples.

  either they were originally from germany themself or their parents immigrated from germany.. here are some of the ones i researched and you should be able to spot just from their names a hint of their origins:.

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  StoneWall

  Today as I was researching past and present members of the Governoring body of J.W.'s something stood out to me that seemed out of proportion towards other name origins.

  The vast majority appeared to be from the Germanic peoples. Either they were originally from Germany themself or their parents immigrated from Germany.

  Here are some of the ones I researched and you should be able to spot just from their names a hint of their origins:

  Karl F. Klein

  Albert Schroeder

  Fred Franz

  Raymond Franz (former member)

  M.G. Henschel

  Gerrit Losch

  The reason I'm researching this is because I noticed something equally puzzling to me as regards the local Kingdom Hall I used to attend.

  The majority of Elders that are/were appointed were of Germanic ancestory. Even the C.O.B.E. (formerly P.O.) has a very Germanic name.

  Two of the Elders that aren't of German ancestory both married wives from families that are.

  A good number of them can speak both English and German.

  Is this just coincidence?

  Do you think your odds of being appointed were increased depending on your last name?

  Is this just me grasping at straws or do you feel there might be some substance behind it?

  If you remember some of the last names of the Elders in your hall, it might be interesting experiment to type it in google search then type name origin and see what you come up with. Even if it don't give you a specific country of origin it will give you a general region for it.

  And last but not least, if the anointed do indeed come from all parts of the earth, why are there no oriental, latino or arabic peoples been appointed to the Governoring body?

  It only took what a hundred years for them finally to get a black man on the G.B. (Samuel Herd).
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  Hotel California

  by evilone in

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  my wife and i are planing a move & fade.

  currently we still go to meetings and do field service (some fake) so as not to raise suspicions.

  psychologically, i have been out for a while, but it has taken her a lot longer, in part because she has more family ties in the borg.

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  What happened in the last 7 months i wonder...

  oz

  Oz for more on this click the link below to his other thread. He posted a few hours ago on it.

  http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/jw/friends/218744/1/How-many-have-moved-away
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  I'm sick of the human race!

  by watersprout in

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  i really am... just been attacked for posting on a dog rescue picture.

  the dog was in a rta and as i was eating my dinner and couldn't see the pictures, heading or comments regarding the dog properly i posted that it could be ''dog bait injuries''... which in the area i live is a nasty problem which is rearing it's ugly head.

  dogs are being stolen from back gardens to be used as bait.

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  Whose with me?? I'm bringing the alcohol!

  I am so there
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  She prayed for me.... and I spent the afternoon puking my guts out

  by Scully in

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  i recently did a favour for one of my co-workers by exchanging a shift with her so she could have a day off when she needed it for a family event.. we worked together last night, and she was so excited about the family event that happened a couple of days ago - she really appreciated being able to go.

  so this morning, at the end of our shift, she tells me that she is going to church before she goes home to sleep, and she is going to pray for me to have many good things from god for doing this favour for her.. i'm flattered that she thinks it was such a big deal, but i told her "no really, that is not necessary... you really don't have to pray for me!

  " she was insistent!!

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  HOLY SHE-IT Scully!

  Who the hell was she praying to? Satan,Baal or maybe Mephisto?

  hmmmm come to think of it...ask her if she takes requests for prayers.

  There's a couple brothers from my old hall I'd like her to pray for and hopefully with the same results.
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  Does anyone recognize the Bethel Elder voice in this short video-audio clip who supposedly went on a shepherding call with a Governoring Body member?

  by StoneWall in

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  this is most definitely a pro-jw clip from an elder that is being circulated amongst the local congregations near where i'm at.. it's funny how a lot of the things that have been discussed on here have been included in this in some form or fashion but totally revamped to make it slanted to show the governoring body in a more positive light.

  such as them not just being a group of men that meet around a table etc.. the voice seems familiar to me and yet i just can't place it.. the link to this clip was shared by some of my more distant extended family members who are still very much in and support the org.

  completely.. after hearing this 6 minute clip it still gives me pause to think that just 5 or so years ago, i too would have been one of those listening to this and taking it to heart just because it came from the platform.. makes me even more thankful for each and every day my family and i are no longer slaves to a publishing company.. if you get a chance to view some of the comments on the main page that this is taken from, it's sad to see how many are still under thought/mind control.. anyways if someone does recognize who's voice this is please leave their name on a comment or pm it to me.. it is bugging me because it seems like i should know this elder but can't place him at the moment.. here is the link to the vid/audio:.

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  BoC yes that thought about how hard they worked every Wednesday almost made me want to laugh.

  Most people I know would love to just work to past 5:00 one day a week. (And yet they seem to want praise for this)

  The more I listened to this clip the more I'm starting to believe that maybe some from Bethel are really snooping on these sites such as this one and trying to put a positive spin to some of the things the rank-and-file publishers may hear from family or workmates that may hear the information on these sites.

  Edited to add: After I went back and looked over the comments on that page, someone mentioned that the speaker was Mozell Mack. If this is true then It's not someone I knew because I don't remember that name. Anyone else know of him ?
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  Does anyone recognize the Bethel Elder voice in this short video-audio clip who supposedly went on a shepherding call with a Governoring Body member?

  by StoneWall in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  this is most definitely a pro-jw clip from an elder that is being circulated amongst the local congregations near where i'm at.. it's funny how a lot of the things that have been discussed on here have been included in this in some form or fashion but totally revamped to make it slanted to show the governoring body in a more positive light.

  such as them not just being a group of men that meet around a table etc.. the voice seems familiar to me and yet i just can't place it.. the link to this clip was shared by some of my more distant extended family members who are still very much in and support the org.

  completely.. after hearing this 6 minute clip it still gives me pause to think that just 5 or so years ago, i too would have been one of those listening to this and taking it to heart just because it came from the platform.. makes me even more thankful for each and every day my family and i are no longer slaves to a publishing company.. if you get a chance to view some of the comments on the main page that this is taken from, it's sad to see how many are still under thought/mind control.. anyways if someone does recognize who's voice this is please leave their name on a comment or pm it to me.. it is bugging me because it seems like i should know this elder but can't place him at the moment.. here is the link to the vid/audio:.

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  This is most definitely a PRO-JW clip from an Elder that is being circulated amongst the local congregations near where I'm at.

  It's funny how a lot of the things that have been discussed on here have been included in this in some form or fashion but totally revamped to make it slanted to show the Governoring Body in a more positive light.

  Such as them not just being a group of men that meet around a table etc.

  The voice seems familiar to me and yet I just can't place it.

  The link to this clip was shared by some of my more distant extended family members who are still very much in and support the Org. completely.

  After hearing this 6 minute clip it still gives me pause to think that just 5 or so years ago, I too would have been one of those listening to this and taking it to heart just because it came from the platform.

  Makes me even more thankful for each and every day my family and I are no longer slaves to a publishing company.

  If you get a chance to view some of the comments on the main page that this is taken from, it's sad to see how many are still under thought/mind control.

  Anyways if someone does recognize who's voice this is please leave their name on a comment or PM it to me.

  It is bugging me because it seems like I should know this Elder but can't place him at the moment.

  Here is the link to the vid/audio:

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=KwjM5D9M1lM
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  How long into the future do you feel it will take before the majority of mankind give up on "God" to solve their problems?

  by StoneWall in

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  i mean the above question out of sincerity and honesty and not trying to belittle anyones beliefs or lack there of.. my point is if armageddon don't happen or the rapture within the next 1000 years or so, how long will man keep holding out hope for a divine being, whether it be jesus, jehovah, allah or "fill in the blank" to come and solve all the problems?.

  do you feel that there is a timetable of any sort?.

  if god hasn't manifested himself/herself/itself in say 5000 years from now to all mankind, do you think the majority at that time will still be clinging to a belief in a higher power if nothing at all has changed as far as their "appearing,coming, calling us to them etc."?.

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  I mean the above question out of sincerity and honesty and not trying to belittle anyones beliefs or lack there of.

  My point is if Armageddon don't happen or the Rapture within the next 1000 years or so, how long will man keep holding out hope for a divine being, whether it be Jesus, Jehovah, Allah or "fill in the blank" to come and solve all the problems?

  Do you feel that there is a timetable of any sort?

  If God hasn't manifested himself/herself/itself in say 5000 years from now to all mankind, do you think the majority at that time will still be clinging to a belief in a higher power if nothing at all has changed as far as their "appearing,coming, calling us to them etc."?

  In history we can read where others really "believed" in Thor,Zeus,Odin,Ra, Isis etc. Even to the point of willing to die in their name.

  Now we may find that laughable or scoff or even ridicule their beliefs but it "evidently" took less than 7000 years for the majority of mankind to lose faith,trust,belief in them.

  So what say you? What do you feel would be an appropriate timeframe "if" nothing happens that humans would come to the conclusion that no matter how we got here, that we're on our own?
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  Gay scientists Isolate "Christian Gene"

  by StoneWall in

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  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qczbnkyxo50.

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  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qCzbNkyXO50
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  LOL- For any of you that's seen Katy Perry's video "Firework", check out this Parody

  by StoneWall in

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  this would be funny even without seeing katy perry's original.. but even better if you see the original first.

  hahahaha.

  enjoy.

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  leavingwt I sent you a PM in answer to the one you sent me.

  To think this video has over 10 million views on youtube.

  I figured it would garner more of a reaction from the other guys on here, especially the ones that went through those tough days in public school trying to conceal a "similar reaction".