Posts by StoneWall

...because I can show you story after story after story on here and elsewhere, where people are fading for YEARS and are as miserable as they were on day one! ...and usually in the end they lose something or someone, they were trying to avoid for all those years...

And I personally know of many that are "fading/faded" for years that are happy and no longer attend meetings but still get to talk to their families.
I will include myself in this. Not DF'd or DA'd.

Some of my family don't have as much to say to me since I haven't attended meetings in years. But I guess that is understandable since we don't have as much in common anymore. Their life revolves around the WT and telling/talking about it, whereas my life revolves around enjoying each day to its fullest. We still extend courtesy to each other but if they start bringing up the religious aspect I either change the topic or say I'm happy for you and hope you can be happy for me.

But I will point out that if my circumstances were different and didn't have so many family still in, and it was just me ....I would have said "GOOD-BYE" to them long ago and could care less then if they DF me or not.

So I can see it both ways. For those without as much to lose it probably is better to cut the cord (DA/DF) but for those with so much more at stake I'd say the "inactive Fader" way might be the more prudent choice. But each will have to decide on their own circumstances.

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For any that may have been "Outted" on Facebook regarding joining a particular "Association"

by StoneWall in

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i can relate to what you're going through because i'm still in the "witness protection program" so to speak, due to family etc.. i would just like to make some recommendations/suggestions to help you with damage control because i hate knowing that you are having to face this in your lives at this time in addition to whatever else you're currently dealing with.. to me it is imperative that you take a proactive/preemptive stance in being able to get through this realtively unscathed if possible.. and it can be done.. first post on your wall on fb that you found out the hardway that facebooks privacy and security settings leave a lot to be desired.. let your friends/family know that you were not aware that others, without your knowledge or consent could add you to many groups out there whether you wanted to or not.. make sure not to name this particular "association or organization" in your message so as not to draw even more undue attention to you or/and it.. this way it further distances you to any perceived ties they may have that linked you with it.

by not using the name it also shows that there are others groups you may have been added to without permission not just this one.

that way it is all inclusive and it will help in your defense to draw attention away from what that one's main focus is.. then you can finish up by stating that you have taken steps to remove your name from this group as well as any others that someone may have added your name to without your knowledge.. you may also want to add that if anyone see's where your name has been added to a group that they would find hard to believe that you would join, to please send you a pm since everything doesn't show up on your personal wall and you may have no knowledge of it.. this is only my suggestions and you can use it to your advantage if so desire.

StoneWall

Just bumping this up again in hopes it can help any since I saw more threads relating to FB.

If you feel you have been compromised, don't rely on whoever may have put you in that situation to get you out.

No one will look after your interest better than "you".

If anyone else has some suggestions or feedback that may help these ones please feel free to share.

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A very important petition!

by sooner7nc in

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http://www.petitiononline.com/casec/petition.html .

StoneWall

Didn't Texas already try something similar to this same thing?

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-250_162-57548931/rick-perry-dismisses-texas-secession-talk/

And now its California's time to try....as posted above,good luck on that.

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Gabby Gifford, Families of New Town

by free2beme in

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stop being a tool for an agenda!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

what happened to you was terrible, but seeing you used as a tool for a political agenda is like watching you get raped without knowing it.

we believe guns hurt and killed people you care about, but we also belileve these people had mental illness.

StoneWall

Whats the big deal about a background check anyways?

Think of this....when I go out to purchase alcohol (beer,wine,liquor etc..) they're supposed to ask for ID in the states to make sure you are of age.
This is of itself a check into my background, since they can see my date of birth on the ID as well as my full name etc. (generally address on it too)

Why don't the vass majority get upset and make a fuss over this invasion of privacy?
It could even be argued that they can track all my/your purchases and how often you bought alcohol. (credit card,debit etc.)

Something tells me this has less to do with privacy/background concerns and more to do with firearm sales.

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The United Nations will attack Christendom

by Doug Mason in

this is a serious question and i hope to receive intelligent explanations.. .

the wts says that the great tribulation lies in the future.

they write that it will start when the united nations attacks christendom.. .

StoneWall

What exactly does the WTS mean by "Christendom"? Are these the nations where Christianity is the dominant or national religion? But aren't these nations members of the UN?

As far back as I can recall the WT (JW's) have always referred to Christendom as all false religions that are claiming to follow Christ.
It is the predominant part of Babylon the Great (all false religion, the Great Harlot).
JW's think of themselves as the only ones representing true Christianity.

So the UN (Image of the Beast) is all the nations it represents finally turning on the Harlot(Babylon the Great) at some point.

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Who is the who of WHO we ARE? And when we die......where does the "who" go?

by Terry in

if and when you deposit the check from me in your own bank--what happens to my actual personal wealth?.

2.what happens to my ability to use my entire personal wealth?

so, how do we answer the question of what happens to you when you die?.

StoneWall

hmmmmm isn't this the same thing that The Who wanted to know? Who are you?

Years ago and yet the question remains the same. Who are you?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PdLIerfXuZ4

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Need help with some bound volumes

by outsmartthesystem in

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court is fast approaching and my team and i could use a little help in finding some hard copy articles.

(bound volumes will work too) i need the following:.

1957 wt bound volume (in particular 5-1-57).

StoneWall

outsmartthesystem I got the PM and sent you one back.

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Being honest & fair, can you think of anything that the Watchtower does that's beneficial to the public?

by Theocratic Sedition in

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i'm curious, as where i reside there's about to be a major brouhaha over the tax exempt status of a major player in this area.

reading and hearing the arguments from both sides conjured thoughts about the tax exempt status of religions and the arguments associated with that issue.

a significant portion of the arguments related to that issue center around how a tax exempt organization benefits it's community.

StoneWall

There have been occasions where they did help some in the community to learn how to read and write.

Naturally most of it came from studying the publications with some that were illiterate in the territory but still I have seen where they have used that in their arguments/reasoning of benefiting the community or general public.

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Need help with some bound volumes

by outsmartthesystem in

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court is fast approaching and my team and i could use a little help in finding some hard copy articles.

(bound volumes will work too) i need the following:.

1957 wt bound volume (in particular 5-1-57).

StoneWall

I have the bound volumes of the WT for the years 1988,2004 and 2006 in the list above.

I'm not really interested in selling them but would be willing to loan them to help in your court case.

If you just paid the shipping to and fro wolud be fine with me.

Depending on how soon you need them, I imagine the shipping to you would cost a bit more if it needs to be very expeditious.

As far as the return shipping, it wouldn't matter to me if it took a month or more by ground (anything to save you some money) just as long as they were returned so that others might/may use them in the future for reference and court cases etc.

Also not sure where you are located but I'm in N.C.
If it is convenient or feasible for you to drive and pick them up from me that could be arranged as well.