Posts by StoneWall

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I Ain't Got No Religion No More ... (But I Like to Get Myself Some Gospel Music)

by Simon in

i love gospel music.

i don't feel like i need to believe in "jebus" to appreciate the music.

i can't go into a gospel church because i might just get religion again - that or i'll be grabbing the mic on be on the stage waving my hands and praising the lord.. i particularly like dylan's gospel period.

StoneWall

Think about it....one of the greatest songs of all time was a "religious" connotation about what the bible said from dust you are and to dust you will return.

Que the band and sing it Kansas "Dust in the wind"
https://youtu.be/tH2w6Oxx0kQ

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"Confessions of a teenage Jesus jerk"

by stuckinarut2 in

has anyone else seen the movie "confessions of a teenage jesus jerk"?.

im still processing it, and trying to work out my thoughts..... i would be interested in others thoughts..

StoneWall

I really liked it because it showed what personal,imposing,stupid and irritating questions that Elders can and will ask during a Judicial Committee.
Also him going to the convention and having a part/demonstration at it was so realistic and true to form for back then in 1983.
I give this movie 2 thumbs up for daring to go where no one has had the balls to go before in public and talking about stuff that many have issues with or embarrassment to admit that they either did or know someone that did.
The Sears catalog in the movie made me chuckle because it made me think of another "brother" (JW) that I knew that seemed to like those Catalogs undergarments section a bit too much.
Here is a 1 minute short vid of the man behind the book and movie himself if anyone wants to know how he feels about being raised a JW.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=311DrbBB0M4

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Only Jehovah's Witnesses

by Vanderhoven7 in

what do you think of this rant?.

“jehovah's witnesses are the only true religion.

this is demonstrated by a slew of true teachings that only jehovah could have revealed to his servants on earth.

StoneWall

Only Jehovah's Witneses will tell you how important using Jah's name is and to always vindicate it,sanctify it and praise it only to have a brochure called "The Divine Name" that admits in it that no one knows the correct spelling or pronunciation and that Jehovah was just a name that had been "agreed" upon by a group of men.
(Or most widely used form not necessarily the correct form).

Only Jehovah's Witnesses will tell you how important it is to not personally bring reproach on Jehovah's name and yet "evidently" see no problem with their organization bringing heaps of reproach on that name by saying they are Jehovah's mouthpiece on Earth, all the while their countless predictions/prophecies/speculations have proven false time after time.

Only Jehovah's Witnesses, to keep from admitting they were wrong/mistaken/erring will change the definition of a word such as "Generation" to try and justify their failed prophecy.

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JW Good News is merely B.S. Bad News demonstrably wrong (Here is the proof)

by TerryWalstrom in

scare tactics generating fear of the end is the core message of jehovah's witnesses.predictions based on so-called bible prophecy is their mother's milk.

"critical times hard to deal with" flavors every book, article,pamphlet and conversation spoken by dub on the doorstep.indeed, all we hear anywhere seems to be bad news.

are jw's right?can this be put to the test?

StoneWall

I find it odd that under the subheading
FACTS and EVIDENCE things are getting better and better
that the info in number 7 doesn't add up. Read it slowly and then think how many people are on the earth and then try and correlate that with 91%

"7. Since 1990, 2.6 Billion people have access to clean water. That's 91% of the world."

Now if it would have said 2.6 Billion "more" people that would have been more believable.

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Supreme Court Rules in Favor of Baker Who Refused to Bake Cake for Gay Couple

by Simon in

seems like such an obviously correct decision to overturn the previous overreach - it should never have been necessary to go to the supreme court but happened because the rights of the religious were being ignored.. as the fundamental level, no one should be able to compel you to work for them or to provide services that go against your beliefs, and certainly not have the government be able to force you to comply.. if this was allowed there would be so many unreconcilable situations that would clog up courts over nonsense.. i also have little patience for these activists that intentionally look to be offended.

it really doesn't do their cause any good to go round looking to make trouble for people.

it's also misguided because it ends up strengthening religious rights over effectively stupid issues.. https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/04/us/politics/supreme-court-sides-with-baker-who-turned-away-gay-couple.html.

StoneWall

170

UK justice..

by zeb in

tommie robinson has reported often about what he sees as the demise of british society by the imposition of 'sharia' norms.. https://www.infowars.com/update-tommy-robinson-gets-13-months-for-livestreaming-outside-courthouse/?utm_source=nightly+newsletter&utm_campaign=9e3ceb30f6-email_campaign_2018_05_25_03_10&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_e12661a83c-9e3ceb30f6-38680565.

yesterday he was jailed for 13 months for reporting outside a court in the uk.

his was a non violent offence.. what no community service?

StoneWall

Oh it's not a crime to use another name ...I mean heck do you think StoneWall is my real name. The point I'm making is that he has used many alias names if you do a google check and has even used names relating to famous celebrities at various times.(Seemed like to further his agenda at the time or attract a specific crowd/audience)

Be that as it may, his real name is already out there and once it's on the internet as we all know any attempts of protecting his family is going to be much harder.
I just feel in being honest the articles should be similarly written as many magazines (even the WT at times) by saying something like Tommy Robinson (not his real name but for his protection an alias) would add much more credibility to the article.

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UK justice..

by zeb in

tommie robinson has reported often about what he sees as the demise of british society by the imposition of 'sharia' norms.. https://www.infowars.com/update-tommy-robinson-gets-13-months-for-livestreaming-outside-courthouse/?utm_source=nightly+newsletter&utm_campaign=9e3ceb30f6-email_campaign_2018_05_25_03_10&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_e12661a83c-9e3ceb30f6-38680565.

yesterday he was jailed for 13 months for reporting outside a court in the uk.

his was a non violent offence.. what no community service?

StoneWall

You do realize that his name isn't Tommy(or Tommie) Robinson I hope.
I hear a lot of blasting going on about the Leftist views but found this article in the Guardian about the far rights views interesting as well.
I think both sides have some valid points but as always neither are giving the full picture or conveniently leaving out a few parts here and there if it furthers their agendas.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/may/31/tommy-robinson-freedom-of-speech-far-right

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A&E - Cults and Extreme Belief - Jehovah's Witnesses

by Incognito in

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friends

i haven't seen this posted.. tuesday may 29, 2018 @ 10pm (new york time zone).

cults and extreme belief - jehovah's witnesses.

StoneWall

Tallon if you go to www.aetv.com you should be able to watch full episodes of A & E shows.
The one from yesterday is already on there and the one about the JW's will more than likely be added soon.

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A song about us and for us Ex-JW's that has lyrics we can all relate to

by StoneWall in

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friends

i've known many talented witnesses and ex-jw's that could compose music,write novels, paint portraits etc.

but i think this is the best art-form(music,songwriting and composing) that i have personally seen/heard so far that puts what so many of us have experienced and endured into words.i used to listen to r.e.m.

's song "losing my religion" and think how great it would be if someday an ex-jw could do a song that would apply even more to us.

StoneWall

I've known many talented witnesses and ex-JW's that could compose music,write novels, paint portraits etc. but I think this is the best art-form(music,songwriting and composing) that I have personally seen/heard so far that puts what so many of us have experienced and endured into words.
I used to listen to R.E.M.'s song "Losing my Religion" and think how great it would be if someday an Ex-JW could do a song that would apply even more to us. I think this one fulfills that.
Listen carefully to the words
https://youtu.be/LMhbSIdPBcU

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This is why the Elders should always call the WT society or personal attorney before ever talking to the Police.

by StoneWall in

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friends

this is probably going to unnerve some on here or make them uncomfortable.we always hear, why didn't the elders call the cops first instead of the wt society (lawyers/attorneys).

in cases of child molestation or other incidents.this video is why and if you're smart you'll follow their example.i'm not taking the wtbts side on this just so you know in advance because i do not agree with the two witness rule at all.but be that as it may,this is by far the best lawyer/attorney and law professor i've ever heard on the subject of why you should never talk to the police and always let an investigation be made through counsel.this is why in the usa you have the right to remain silent when talking to police/authorities but even more important what the fifth amendment really entails and why it would behoove us all to understand what can happen even if you are totally innocent and have nothing to hide but how things can go horribly wrong.if i ever have to go to court for anything i can only hope that i got a lawyer as competent as this one the vid is approx 46 minutes long but well worth investing that time because if you had to talk to a lawyer it would cost you a lot to receive what this professor covers in this.the majority is from the law professor and the remaining minutes are of a former police captain/investigator with his insights and opinions.and just to be clear, i'm not suggesting that the elders not call the police because they should in cases of child molestation but rather they better get legal advice to protect themselves so that they don't have to answer for the wtbts decisions.look how many former (ex) elders we have on sites like this one and others and i'm so happy they got free of the wt but also they didn't get in trouble by accidentally saying/doing the wrong thing.all of us can benefit by following this advice in the video and i hope you enjoy it and to know what your rights arehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-7o9xyp7ee.

StoneWall

zeb you asked if there had been any investigation into the Australian woman that was killed by cops here in the USA. Here is a link to a CNN article with some of the latest info.
Pay close attention to the part about the officers had body cams but neither of them were turned on.Also notice that the police are being very quiet and not to forth coming with information. This is why it's so important to use their own strategy about being silent/quiet when dealing with them , and not giving them anything other than what is required by law.

I used to think that people that plead the fifth had something to hide but now I see why so many are doing it.
Because even if you are innocent something you say can be turned around and used against you.
http://www.cnn.com/2017/07/25/us/minneapolis-police-shooting-slap/index.html