notverylikely, if the info you posted is correct, you're not far from the Assembly hall in Salisbury, NC then.
Did you ever attend there or were you out before it was built?
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has anyone ever been recognized and outed?
i am trying to not let too much personal information out here, but is there a real concern?.
notverylikely, if the info you posted is correct, you're not far from the Assembly hall in Salisbury, NC then.
Did you ever attend there or were you out before it was built?
i stumbled on to this forum about a month ago...and i'm hooked!!
a tremendous amount of knowledge, wisdom, great debate, and lol humor, which is good for the soul.. i am not a jw, but the borg infected my family years ago, many are still trapped, and i have 2 big shot elders.. i became a huge opposer/apostate and had many a battle.
today we have learned to live in peace...live and let live.. recently, i decided to get up to date with everything jw... i often wonder why my family can't see or figure out the real truth.
Welcome to the forum braveheart.
when i first read over this on msnbc news today, it was truly morbid of just one soldier to do something like this.. but to think that 12 are being implicated tells you how truly sick a lot in the u.s. forces are.. what is the difference between what they did and what hitlers soldiers did?.
here is the link for the whole article:.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/39380805/ns/world_news-south_and_central_asia/.
Farkel said:
stonewall,
Are you stupid, or somthin'?
Farkel
No are you?
Care to elaborate on what you mean there?
in case anyone's interested but unaware of my family's case up to this point, here's the original thread:.
http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/jw/friends/198852/5/sbcheezits-judicial-hearing-my-epic-fail-repost-for-ie-users.
so the elders requested a follow-up meeting last week but we were unable to meet at their set time and told them as much.
SBCheezits I just want to say I'm proud of both you and your wife for taking this stand.
It's never easy and thats just the way the WTBTS wants it. They want to make it as tough on people as they can to discourage any others from daring to question their authority. It will take some getting used to as far as dealing with your mom and M-I-L since they still in and under the control of the GB.
When I was younger I went through the JC and got DF. The main difference between yours and mine other than what it was for is that at the time I got DF I was still a believer in the WackyTower. I went through much mental anguish with the ordeal at that time not only because of still believing but also was young and couldn't talk to most of my family that were J.W.'s
I wish when it happened to me way back then I'd known it was all hogwash as you do now. Woulda made my life back then a lot easier and more fulfilling. Needless to say I got reinstated after many months all the while still thinknig it was Jah's Org.
Many years passed and then I started to see it for what it really was, just another man-made religion claiming they were the only true way to God.
As of right now I'm considered inactive/spiritually weak (their words not mine) but to the ones on here the word would be fader. But I've already had in last 6 months over 3 visits from the Elders just dropping by.(checking up on me is more like it) I'm always nice as long as they are and love being at home when talking to them because at my house I set the tone/tempo. But I got the feeling I got a big bullseye on me like a target and they're just waiting on me to mess up. If it wasn't for my family that is still in I'd done told them I DA.
But in all seriousness if I was to get DF I could care less at this point. Like you, I've already gotten my wife and son out, and I've helped two of my sisters see the "light" and they're out now. Working on a few more as discreetly as I can and testing the waters with them on their feelings on some matters. But I know the day will come when the jig will be up. And it will be time for me to tell them I'm out and won't be coming back again.
when i first read over this on msnbc news today, it was truly morbid of just one soldier to do something like this.. but to think that 12 are being implicated tells you how truly sick a lot in the u.s. forces are.. what is the difference between what they did and what hitlers soldiers did?.
here is the link for the whole article:.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/39380805/ns/world_news-south_and_central_asia/.
sooner7nc thanks for that Winston Churchill quote. Some people may have read that and thought it was Islamic Extremist that said that if you hadn't put the name at the end.
And on that link you provided to the guardian.co.uk shows even how bad the Brits soldiers where treating some of the Iraqi's.
Check out this quote..And then someone tell me we are saving them from terrorist:
A central issue of the inquiry is why five "conditioning techniques" – hooding prisoners, putting them in stress positions, depriving them of sleep, depriving them of food and water, and playing white noise – were used on Iraqi detainees. The techniques, inflicted on IRA suspects, were banned in 1972 by the then prime minister, Edward Heath.
Ya this sure sounds a lot like when the European nations went to the arab world and tried to convert them to Christianity with the Crusades. I can see a lot of parallels. Lot of blood spilled back then in the name of trying to help them. Same shit just a different century under a different pretense this time.
This little speech that Bruce Springsteen gave in 1985 right before he performed the song WAR sums it up.
As I watch this video I can't help but think how his words were true back then and even more so now.
when i first read over this on msnbc news today, it was truly morbid of just one soldier to do something like this.. but to think that 12 are being implicated tells you how truly sick a lot in the u.s. forces are.. what is the difference between what they did and what hitlers soldiers did?.
here is the link for the whole article:.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/39380805/ns/world_news-south_and_central_asia/.
The Islam agenda is JOIN US OR DIE! Stonewall, you probably should find out which way is east and west and buy you a prayer rug.
So your answer to what I stated is to throw out a personal attack against me. I figured you were more intelligent than that.
I guess I was wrong. No come back on the history of the U.S. or nothing. Just have to say get a prayer rug huh. Did you ever do debates in school or anything with substance or were you one of the girls (I' assuming from your sex you selected) that instead of a insightful answer would have to resort to saying something retarded like oh ya but your Mom's ugly...or your shoes neeed shined or now maybe you could just tell them to get a rug and a turban (towel) on their head if they don't agree with a war. Sounds like vietnam all over again.
when i first read over this on msnbc news today, it was truly morbid of just one soldier to do something like this.. but to think that 12 are being implicated tells you how truly sick a lot in the u.s. forces are.. what is the difference between what they did and what hitlers soldiers did?.
here is the link for the whole article:.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/39380805/ns/world_news-south_and_central_asia/.
Why do we seem to be the only ones who have to follow the Geneva Convention?
Why are we the ones invading other countries? Remember how we were originally suppose to be in Iraq because of those weapons of mass destruction? Then it turned out they had none. No WMD's. So what does the U.S. do?
They try to justify. Not say we were wrong. But say oh well they had a cruel dictator in Sadam Hussein. He needed out anyways.
And follow the Geneva Convention my ass. Do you really need me to go all way back to the days of ole General Custer and his last stand and show how long a history this nation has on atrocities of everyone else. Or how bout that dropping those two Atom bombs on Nagasaki and Hiroshima.. A lot of dead innocent women and children in those cities that never had anything to do with the war. But oh ya we're different...RIGHT!!
ok we all knew the day would come when it wouldn't be about the messages but instead about the images.. and now thanks to this video i see repubs and dems in a whole new light.
lol.
i should point out that the first almost 3 minutes is dedicated to the repubs...for some reason they only gave the dems a little over a minute.
OK we all knew the day would come when it wouldn't be about the messages but instead about the images.
And now thanks to this video I see Repubs and Dems in a whole new light. LOL
I should point out that the first almost 3 minutes is dedicated to the Repubs...for some reason they only gave the Dems a little over a minute. After seeing the images I see why...heehe
when i first read over this on msnbc news today, it was truly morbid of just one soldier to do something like this.. but to think that 12 are being implicated tells you how truly sick a lot in the u.s. forces are.. what is the difference between what they did and what hitlers soldiers did?.
here is the link for the whole article:.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/39380805/ns/world_news-south_and_central_asia/.
I just noticed after reading over the article again that this Morlock soldier that is accused of some of the worst atrocities is from Wasilla,Alaska.
I wonder if Sarah Palin knew of him since she was on the city Council in Wasilla.
If she did know him or his family, I'd be interested to hear her thoughts on this.
when i first read over this on msnbc news today, it was truly morbid of just one soldier to do something like this.. but to think that 12 are being implicated tells you how truly sick a lot in the u.s. forces are.. what is the difference between what they did and what hitlers soldiers did?.
here is the link for the whole article:.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/39380805/ns/world_news-south_and_central_asia/.
This is the reality of war, however. These guys are not doing anything that hasn't been done before. Every major war is going to have soliders that degenerate into these practices. It really shouldn't surprise us when these things happen.
brotherdan couldn't this argument be made from every side though. Even Hitlers guys coulda said oh well it's just war. Shit happens.
I know as long as it bothers me, that I'm still human. I fear the day I just accept it. Then I guess I'd be like these guys without human compassion.
Plus you saw what a stink was made over if that preacher down in Fla. had burned those Quran's. That it would only help the terrorist recruit more.
I'd say this will do a lot for their cause over there in getting more to fight the American regime.