my wife and i are having trouble getting past the way animals are treated for our food supply and also the unhealthy things that are introduced into our food supply.
we have also discussed the fact that if our meat, chicken, pork, and turkey was not packaged in little vacuum packed trays where we could exercise a large amount of cognitive dissonance, we would not be able to eat animals.
i was hoping someone would have some favorite suggestions for books and resources to begin the journey toward vegetarianism.
Exjdub,
I understand. We are omnivores and do have a choice. I personally am worried about the level of my good cholesterol. I need to do research but I think it has something to do with the lack of protein in my diet.
I hope it works for you. It's been a struggle of mine for 3 yrs now. It's hard to know what is the right diet changes to do.
Mandette
my wife and i are having trouble getting past the way animals are treated for our food supply and also the unhealthy things that are introduced into our food supply.
we have also discussed the fact that if our meat, chicken, pork, and turkey was not packaged in little vacuum packed trays where we could exercise a large amount of cognitive dissonance, we would not be able to eat animals.
i was hoping someone would have some favorite suggestions for books and resources to begin the journey toward vegetarianism.
Look at this way.......a cow/pig/fish/chicken is in the natural food chain. A Mountain Lion, fox, coyote, to name a few all hunt and eat these animals. They for the most part kill quickly. There are many arguments for and against humans eating meat. I tend to believe we need animal protein of some kind. That being said, I've been TRYING to eat some chicken mainly. It's a very hard thing for me to do. I'm not being very successful at it. And my reasons were not so much the treatment of animals in factory farming(although it's part of it), I just found eating meat unappetizing. I have been able to eat fish. But it's expensive and not to be eaten more than 3 times a week.
I'm not the cooking type. Although of all things, I cook an exceptional pot roast! So my main thing are the vegetarian Weight Watcher meals and other similar items. Thank God for freezers and microwaves!
I am going to try to eat some turkey on Thursday. TRY is the big word.
I wish you well....
Mandette
my wife and i are having trouble getting past the way animals are treated for our food supply and also the unhealthy things that are introduced into our food supply.
we have also discussed the fact that if our meat, chicken, pork, and turkey was not packaged in little vacuum packed trays where we could exercise a large amount of cognitive dissonance, we would not be able to eat animals.
i was hoping someone would have some favorite suggestions for books and resources to begin the journey toward vegetarianism.
I went about 3 yrs without eating meat. If you have the will to learn that way of cooking then it can be great!! But I'm having problems with keeping my good cholesterol up where it should be. My bad is low but my good is not great.
If the major issue you have is with how the animals are treated, you could look locally for those who raise free range beef on grain diets and that are slaughtered and processed there. Then you'd know that they are treated right and humanely slaughtered. I also get my eggs locally from friends of mine who have chickens the love!
Mandette
i sure did.
and after years and years, they did finally stop.
it's great to have them back.
Good for you Mega!!!
I will NOT ask my sister to stop....it was her decision(except for when I'm needed for something).....and she's even been rotten to my parents for not shunning me....and I'm only faded.......
Mandette
recently at the beach house with my df studly son...a carload of young jw's in service drove by and saw us...old friends of his/me...they turned around and stopped...hugs and all!...i loved them treating him so human.
most dubs now hate to shun...esp.
their own family and there is less and less of it...my own mom will not shun my son, but dad will...she just told me she has no prob treating my son as just her normal grandson because she believe no kids should be allowed to be baptised!....i love you mom!
It's a losing battle, Oompa......everything I see, it's becoming more regimented.......
They're all drinking the kool-aid, I mean new light.....it probably won't be long before they're told to shun those that have faded.......afterall following all this garbage proves their faith....
Mandette
actually he is hardly a kid anymore.....and is in bethel dammit!..........but why is it that when i was a good jw account servant i could guide, influence, direct him... totally... in all religious matters......which of course is why he believes what he believes and is at bethel (damm i was good huh!
) but now that i am faded and a vocal apostate (not dfd but called apostate behind my back) i am supposed to shut up and not share any of my new found real truths with him?.
my ex-wife hardass jw just gave me grief for this, my hardass current jw wife just gave me grief for this, my elder/dad gave me grief for this....and even my bethel son gave me grief for this....ya know i think jesus said you should not put your bright light under a basket!....but they all tell me to.
Oompa? Am I having a flashback??? Did I dream what you just posted last night? HA!
Seriously though.....sorry about your pain. It's so hard. It's hard to understand.
If those in Jonestown drank the poisoned Kool-Aid AND force fed it to their children KNOWING it would kill them, I guess it's not a real stretch of imagination that JW's don't want to know the truth(wow was that an oxymoron?) They take comfort in it. It makes sense of this world to them. Maybe ignorance is bliss? If they acknowledge that the organization is wrong then it rocks their whole world. Everything they know and believe is now a lie. A lot of people can't take that stress. They'd rather be in ignorance. It's almost like they're institutionalized. Like a prison inmate who's been in so long they can't function on the outside in the real world. They do anything they can to go back. Maybe it's the structure. Maybe it's having your thinking done for you. That's one reason active JW's are so afraid of those of us who know the research and what's really going on.
hang in there
M
usa today everyone has a gun, why?.....to protect themselves...from who?
other folks with guns!.....yes it's in your laws...but they were written when the british ruled you.
one school gun killing every week does not happen anywhere else in the world....maybe you need more guns to protect your kids.....one in the lunchbox.....does anyone else see this.
FlyingHigh?
Have you even looked at the issues in Kalamazoo and Battle Creek? Gun violence is very prevalent there! So I wouldn't say it's uncommon in SW Michigan.
And Reniaa? We do live in a violent society. SO....I will take steps to PROTECT myself. I'm not going to depend on Law Enforcement to get there in time!!! And when sheep like you are baaaa-ing in panic you'll be HAPPY to see the Sheepdogs that you disdain for having guns show up to save your ass!!!
M
#1 to visit ireland.
#2 go to the kentucky derby....with good seats, not the infield.. i have others but they are less important..
Visit and work at Best Friends Animal Sanctuary in Kanah, Utah.
Have many more vacations on the coast of North Carolina.
Do some eco-vacations such as studying the wolves of the Upper Penisula of Michigan, or turtles on the coast of New Jersey.
Have tons of sex.
Take a train across the country or drive it. The Rockies are magnificent!!!!!
Swim with wild dolphins.
M
so i was watching csi this week and a homeowner, in attempt teach a lesson.
to local kids who kept bashing his mailbox while playing mailbox baseball,.
fills his mailbox with cement one night.. that night, a kid swings at the box, breaks his shoulder, the bat shatters.
Creative report writing is always a good talent to have....
"I was in fear for my life and I'm just a little girl!!!" "A helpless woman"... NOT!! But it sure sounds good!!!
M
so i was watching csi this week and a homeowner, in attempt teach a lesson.
to local kids who kept bashing his mailbox while playing mailbox baseball,.
fills his mailbox with cement one night.. that night, a kid swings at the box, breaks his shoulder, the bat shatters.
Awwww Hill I'm so sorry about your family. I had a dear friend murdered in the line of duty May 9, 2005. And another friend killed 3 weeks ago in the line of duty.
(((((((Hill)))))) hugs.........
Mandette
